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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Oct 24, 2021 21:40:57 GMT
Went to Posh yesterday. They gave the old tannoy notice about racism etc not being acceptable (yes we all know that thanks) and it was basically just a noise with nobody listening.
Then there was a minute's applause for an ex player who'd passed and I thought they were going to just get on with it, but no, we still have to go through the pointless exercise.
Posh all stood on the centre circle and some of QPR took a knee (I thought that they were one of the teams not doing it?) and some just stood. What a waste of time.
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Oct 25, 2021 11:01:46 GMT
I've no interest in cricket but see that that's become infected in recent days (according to Twitter anyway) - Eng/W.Indies - South Africa - India/Pakistan etc
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Oct 25, 2021 19:31:19 GMT
SeamonkeyOO7@SEAMONKEYOO7 - Oct 24, Replying to @carolinebaynton and @mailonlineIt always puzzled me why this BLM drivel came over to the UK. It’s got NOTHING to do with us. The purpose was to make public aware of the violence cops had against black folk in the USA. Nothing to do with the United Kingdom. b0252 Follow the money  video - now unavailable & can't remember what it was!
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Oct 26, 2021 21:25:10 GMT
I've no interest in cricket but see that that's become infected in recent days (according to Twitter anyway) - Eng/W.Indies - South Africa - India/Pakistan etc 26/10/21 An appalling decision by @officialcsa to order its players to take the knee. Far from promoting unity, this can only foster division among players and followers of the game.
Louis Ferreira@LouisFe17605178 (26/10/21) Well done @quinnydekock69 on exercising your freedom of choice, irrespective of the risk of losing your contract. This is not a dictatorship country, and refusing to take the knee does not make you a racist like so many uneducated closed minded people will say.
(checks notes)@_checks_notes_ 26/10/21 What De Kock's critics fail to understand is that some of us still enjoy freedom. Even if I was a fully signed-up supporter of the BLM organisation, I would still have a big issue with being *forced* to take the knee. Compulsion strips the gesture of any meaning it might've had. |
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Oct 31, 2021 10:49:20 GMT
Scotty@Dotsy1978 (9:06 AM · Oct 31, 2021)
Jeff Stelling leaving Soccer Saturday at end of season.
A once brilliant programme absolutely ruined in the name of political correctness. (Much like Sky TV and football/sport generally, with cricket the latest one to divide its customers).
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Nov 7, 2021 21:05:10 GMT
Stephen Keenan@sjk_67 7/11/21
Sportscene not mentioning Dundee players refusing to take the knee and their fans then booing Celtic players for doing so is an interesting editorial policy
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Nov 10, 2021 19:56:46 GMT
The President@AshleyMakgatho
“Either you take the knee or you’re a racist” is a wild conclusion to draw, man. I’ll never get used to this logic b0252
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Nov 21, 2021 23:06:39 GMT
steve@stevensizer2 21/11/21So Derby v Bournemouth the ref was the only person to take the knee on the pitch - what a plank 
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Nov 30, 2021 23:52:05 GMT
Barnsley FC striker Devante Cole on why he does not take the knee
BARNSLEY striker Devante Cole has explained his reasoning as to why he chooses not to take the knee.
Since June 2020, players, officials and staff at Premier League and EFL games across the vast majority of clubs have been taking a knee before kick-off to show support for the movement for racial equality.
But last season, Crystal Palace player Wilfried Zaha became the first Premier League player who elected to not take the knee because he believed the protest was no longer enough.
In February, players at Brentford also released a statement saying that they would also not take the knee.
The decision has since been reversed, but Ivan Toney - a former Reds loanee - said he would continue to stand before kick-off to games.
Players at some other clubs also elected to stop taking the knee last season, including Middlesbrough, with former captain Britt Assombalonga arguing it was time for “action instead of empty statements”.
QPR players also elected not to take the knee, with director of football Les Ferdinand arguing that the gesture had become little more than a gimmick in the fight against racial inequality and discrimination in his opinion.
On his own position, Cole said: “It is just my personal preference that taking the knee has kind of lost its message for me.
"It is my personal preference that I have chosen to stand and I have done that for the last three or four months going into last season.
“I cannot talk for other teams, but can talk for me personally. It has lost its message for me.
“Everyone respects each other in the changing room (at Barnsley) and if you have your own choice or reference, they are more than happy for you to go and do that.”
On what more can be done in his view to address deep-rooted inequality in football, he continued: “I think we could be here all day talking about that, really.
“A lot more could be done, really.”
yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/barnsley-fc-striker-devante-cole-on-why-he-does-not-take-the-knee 30/11/21
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Apr 8, 2022 19:10:49 GMT
Peterborough United chairman Darragh MacAnthony has accused footballers, officials and journalists who will travel to Qatar for the World Cup later this year, despite moaning about atrocities in the host country, of hypocrisy.
MacAnthony used his popular ‘Hard Truth’ podcast to say he was bored of virtue signalling.
“It amuses me to see journalists, and some of them are great fans of mine, writing articles about how disgusting the atrocities are in Qatar regarding homosexuality and how the stadiums were built,” MacAnthony said. “But those same people will take their first-class air tickets and five-star hotel rooms and sit in their comfy press seat and watch all the games. How is that helping? It’s just hypocrisy in my opinion. “If they are seriously disgusted why don’t the journalists get together and agree en bloc not to go?
“I listened to Gareth Southgate and Harry Kane talking about it, but if they are seriously appalled by what goes on out there they should make a real statement and boycott the tournament. “What a statement it would be if an England manager said he was delighted his players had qualified, but that he was going to sit out the tournament. Nothing else will make a difference. It’s all just virtue signalling and I’m bored of it to be honest. Either pull our or just shut up and stop talking about it.
By Alan Swann Thursday, 7th April 2022, 8:47 am Peterborough Today
That'll be Gareth "it's complicated" Southgate & Harry "we have to keep doing it" Kane, because we've created our own mess and we've no way out. As Groucho Marx said: “Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.”
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Apr 28, 2022 9:20:06 GMT
The War on the West: How to Prevail in the Age of Unreason Hardcover – 28 April 2022The brilliant and provocative new book from one of the world’s foremost political writers‘The anti-Western revisionists have been out in force in recent years. It is high time that we revise them in turn…’In The War on the West, international bestselling author Douglas Murray asks: if the history of humankind is one of slavery, conquest, prejudice, genocide and exploitation, why are only Western nations taking the blame for it? It’s become perfectly acceptable to celebrate the contributions of non-Western cultures, but discussing their flaws and crimes is called hate speech. What’s more it has become acceptable to discuss the flaws and crimes of Western culture, but celebrating their contributions is also called hate speech. Some of this is a much-needed reckoning; however, some is part of a larger international attack on reason, democracy, science, progress and the citizens of the West by dishonest scholars, hatemongers, hostile nations and human-rights abusers hoping to distract from their ongoing villainy.In The War on the West, Douglas Murray shows the ways in which many well-meaning people have been lured into polarisation by lies, and shows how far the world’s most crucial political debates have been hijacked across Europe and America. Propelled by an incisive deconstruction of inconsistent arguments and hypocritical activism, The War on the West is an essential and urgent polemic that cements Murray’s status as one of the world’s foremost political writers
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on May 16, 2022 8:42:12 GMT
How Woke Won: The Elitist Movement That Threatens Democracy, Tolerance and Reason (Paperback – 19 May 2022) Wokeness has conquered our institutions. The worlds of politics, academia and even corporate capitalism now bend the knee to the new orthodoxies around gender, racism and identity. How Woke Won explores the intellectual roots of wokeness and how this movement, which poses as radical and left-wing, came to be embraced by some of the most privileged people imaginable. In this powerful critique, Joanna Williams argues that anyone interested in building a truly free, egalitarian and democratic society needs to tackle wokeness head-on.Amazon - The Elitist Movement That Threatens Democracy, Tolerance and Reason
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Post by rodders on May 16, 2022 14:40:38 GMT
Ívan Toney continues to refuse to take part in this nonsense!!
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on May 16, 2022 15:40:35 GMT
Ívan Toney continues to refuse to take part in this nonsense!! Ivan Toney believes players are being "used as puppets" in taking a knee - and this is one reason why Brentford will no longer be making the anti-racism gesture before games. The striker, who is the Championship's top scorer with 24 goals, says the gesture is allowing "people at the top" to rest on the subject and nothing has changed as a result. Toney has given an insight into why the Bees squad decided to stop doing the gesture, having deemed it was no longer having the desired effect, as they continue to work against prejudice behind the scenes. "We have had a long discussion about that; why we are not taking a knee," he told Sky Sports. "Everyone has had their say, and everyone agrees [that] we have been taking the knee for however long now and still nothing has changed. "We are kind of being used as puppets, in my eyes; take the knee and the people at the top can rest for a while now, which is pretty silly and pretty pointless. Nothing is changing. - Sky Friday 19 February 2021 Amazingly though after promotion they do the reverse ferret and on Wednesday 4 August 2021 we get "Brentford players will take a knee before matches this season but Ivan Toney will continue to stand" because those players somehow now feel that it'll make a difference! - sky Personally I think Toney is right in that it does nothing. All it seems to do is inflame a situation that I don't recall in 2019 being anything like the toxic place we find ourselves in 2022. More weight to Toney's argument being: "Brentford players Ivan Toney and Rico Henry said members of their family were racially abused on Sunday at Goodison Park." skynews Monday 16 May 2022 |
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Post by rodders on May 16, 2022 18:20:29 GMT
Ívan Toney continues to refuse to take part in this nonsense!! Ivan Toney believes players are being "used as puppets" in taking a knee - and this is one reason why Brentford will no longer be making the anti-racism gesture before games. The striker, who is the Championship's top scorer with 24 goals, says the gesture is allowing "people at the top" to rest on the subject and nothing has changed as a result. Toney has given an insight into why the Bees squad decided to stop doing the gesture, having deemed it was no longer having the desired effect, as they continue to work against prejudice behind the scenes. "We have had a long discussion about that; why we are not taking a knee," he told Sky Sports. "Everyone has had their say, and everyone agrees [that] we have been taking the knee for however long now and still nothing has changed. "We are kind of being used as puppets, in my eyes; take the knee and the people at the top can rest for a while now, which is pretty silly and pretty pointless. Nothing is changing. - Sky Friday 19 February 2021 Amazingly though after promotion they do the reverse ferret and on Wednesday 4 August 2021 we get "Brentford players will take a knee before matches this season but Ivan Toney will continue to stand" because those players somehow now feel that it'll make a difference! - sky Personally I think Toney is right in that it does nothing. All it seems to do is inflame a situation that I don't recall in 2019 being anything like the toxic place we find ourselves in 2022. More weight to Toney's argument being: "Brentford players Ivan Toney and Rico Henry said members of their family were racially abused on Sunday at Goodison Park." skynews Monday 16 May 2022 Personally I am disappointed that the whole team did not stick to their guns and refuse to take part. |
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on May 20, 2022 11:45:28 GMT
This new world of respect and tolerance is going well isn't it.
Racism against players allegedly worse now than ever. Thugs nutting players and players and managers having to defend themselves from attack. Those woke virtue signallers who have infected football just want to destabilise everything and they are doing a grand job. I know that's a bit tenuous but the atmosphere at football and generally in society now is often far too toxic.
Just stick to football. At end of season matches just put up temporary fences, it's not rocket science. Putting out a "keep off the pitch" message through the PA is as much use as a chocolate teapot.
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Jun 15, 2022 10:01:25 GMT
Wendy Oldershaw@WendtheWalkerKneeling again - losing again! 🏴🆚🇭🇺 (England 0 Hungary 4)  
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Jun 25, 2022 20:42:38 GMT
PREM chiefs will consult with senior players to decide whether to continue to “take the knee” before games next season.
Top-flight players have united in the anti-racism gesture since the return of football at the end of the first pandemic lockdown in 2020.
Premier League chiefs will hold talks with players about "taking the knee"
But after two-and-a-half seasons of the gesture being the final part of the pre-match programme, some have argued that it is time for it to be dropped.
Premier League bosses will not take a formal position until the eve of next season.
thesun.co.uk/premier-league-take-the-knee-football 19/5/22
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Jul 5, 2022 11:50:33 GMT
A Premier League footballer has been arrested in north London on suspicion of serious sexual offences in what was reportedly a dramatic 3am swoop by police.The player, in his late 20s, cannot be named for legal reasons. He was in custody being questioned on Monday night over an alleged attack which is said to have taken place towards the end of last month. dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews//Premier-League-footballer-arrested 5/7/22 Innocent until proven guilty, quite correctly, but this isn't the first such or similar issue concerning these overpaid pampered sportsmen. We're supposed to be educated on social issues by this lot
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Jul 14, 2022 10:40:44 GMT
Emily Hewertson@emilyhewertson 13/7/22WTF exactly does this presenter want the English coach to do if the 15 most talented/tactically appropriate players for the match happen to be white? Jeopardise the score in the name of “diversity”? The BBC are a joke.Follow up quote of the day on Talk TV from a listener during the Mike Graham programme: "I'm surprised that BBC Sport didn't question the number of women in the England women's football team"
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Aug 2, 2022 20:52:06 GMT
Premier league newcomers Bournemouth will not perform a U-turn in their earlier decision on taking the knee before games.
Bournemouth stopped making the pre-match gesture while in the Championship, saying it has outlived its relevance.
“Fighting all forms of discrimination and creating an equal, inclusive society is something that we feel very passionately about. But that is defined by much more than a gesture, which we feel has run its course and is no longer having the effect it first did eight months ago.”
In a statement the club announced: ‘Taking the knee’ is a gesture that players undertake in their bit to create awareness and encourage conversations about how to remove all forms of racial discrimination in the game we all love. As the Cherries prepare for their first game back in the English top flight after two years absence, they will still stand by their earlier decision not to take the knee but will however respect other clubs desires to go in different directions. Taking the knee involves placing one’s knee against the ground before kick off as a way of protesting against racism in football.
ebwavez/2022/08/02/bournemouth-will-not-take-the-knee-before-premier-league-games-this-season.
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Nov 30, 2022 10:28:51 GMT
I personally believe that taking the knee has done more harm than good. Has for me. Last night (England v Wales) was the first time since 1970 that I haven't watched an England World Cup match. Didn't watch the Iran match either & only caught the 2nd half of the USA match, hoping at the non knee bending (how weird is that when the #woke action was imported from them) team would score  Seems to have gone down well in Australia as well  Jeff Laycock@jeff_laycock 30/11/22Well, @patcummins30 has worked his wonder again in Perth. Not only flying over using fossil fuel & going to take the "knee" less than 5 thousand turned out to watch the first day. RIP @cricketaus |
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Post by Hodgy on Nov 30, 2022 12:26:37 GMT
I personally believe that taking the knee has done more harm than good. Has for me. Last night (England v Wales) was the first time since 1970 that I haven't watched an England World Cup match. Didn't watch the Iran match either That’s a bit confusing if you mean the England v Iran match. It was before the match against Wales. |
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Post by Milo (not Mylo!!) on Nov 30, 2022 18:09:00 GMT
Has for me. Last night (England v Wales) was the first time since 1970 that I haven't watched an England World Cup match. Didn't watch the Iran match either That’s a bit confusing if you mean the England v Iran match. It was before the match against Wales. Oh yes well spotted I initially thought, what the hell is he on about, but after reading it again I see what you mean  . It was indeed the second time. I think that it was because it was more of a must watch (the one's where people who only support football every 4 years come out of the woodwork) than any of the other 2 group matches that for me to miss was more significant. |
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Post by Hodgy on Nov 30, 2022 21:30:35 GMT
That’s a bit confusing if you mean the England v Iran match. It was before the match against Wales. Oh yes well spotted I initially thought, what the hell is he on about, but after reading it again I see what you mean . It was indeed the second time. I think that it was because it was more of a must watch (the one's where people who only support football every 4 years come out of the woodwork) than any of the other 2 group matches that for me to miss was more significant. No problem. I understand your stance, literally. I just want to watch a football match without any political shite. I’m only interested in the football, nothing more. I recommend you shouldn’t sacrifice your patriotism for the sake of those sad seconds. Watch our team after 1 min into the game. |
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. It was indeed the second time. I think that it was because it was more of a must watch (the one's where people who only support football every 4 years come out of the woodwork) than any of the other 2 group matches that for me to miss was more significant.