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Post by admin on May 11, 2015 15:30:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 9:08:56 GMT
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Post by admin on May 12, 2015 11:35:54 GMT
I do. It's the only speedway I really enjoy these days. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 14:52:31 GMT
I do. It's the only speedway I really enjoy these days. Meh...I find it beyond boring. |
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Post by davet on May 12, 2015 15:17:37 GMT
I'm with Champs on this. I like live speedway for all its faults and despite the delays, but now we have no GP riders in our team I couldn't care less who wins them, so no point in watching.
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Post by admin on May 12, 2015 16:36:24 GMT
Each to their own. I see it as the difference between F1 and bangers at Brandon or the Adrian Flux Arena. It's basically the same concept but in terms of what it means and represents it's a million miles apart.
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Post by davet on May 12, 2015 16:46:24 GMT
Absolutely, but although F1 represents the ultimate in motor racing, it is incredibly dull, especially now it is so predictable. If you think speedway is too drawn out, how do you rate this 2 hours of follow my leader?
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Post by Hodgy on May 12, 2015 18:12:04 GMT
Always look forward to GP's. Yes has screwed British Speedway but along with Sky TV, BSPA missed huge marketing opportunities. Poland, Sweden and now Denmark embraced it rather than challenge. In addition to far too many self agendas.
GP's only meetings that create that atmosphere, only time it looks a real sport (no need to mention Warsaw). They just keep getting the race tracks wrong, albeit venue or surface. Would have expected consistency by now.
Recall Finland was a very poor meeting last season. If still same shape as Leicester will be the same again. Could suit a Doyle e/w.
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Post by admin on May 12, 2015 22:48:30 GMT
Absolutely, but although F1 represents the ultimate in motor racing, it is incredibly dull, especially now it is so predictable. If you think speedway is too drawn out, how do you rate this 2 hours of follow my leader? It's often predictable though. It's Mercedes now, Red Bull before, Schumacher before etc etc. The difference is that speedway is 15 minutes of speedway spread over 2 hours if you're lucky whereas F1 is approximately 2 hours of F1 from start to chequered flag. It's like all sports, if you don't like it or understand the technicalities then it'll probably seem dull. It's no different from someone saying that speedway is first out the gate wins and it's incredibly dull, whereas us as fans will quite happily watch a scrap for 3rd and 4th if the front two have buggered off but not racing each other. F1 & speedway have something in common, as we previously discussed, in that they've both become poorer due to noise loss. Speedway due to silencers and the drive to noiseless engines, and F1 due to 2014's revised engine formula (It's GP2 that sounds like F1 now. I think Brundle commented similarly on Sunday?). Speedway's noise decline will continue to satisfy NIMBYs & vegetarians, whereas F1 is trying to do something about it:
Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone (now that is a supremo ) has renewed calls for a return to V8 engines, claiming it is "urgently" needed and that they could be boosted to 1000bhp. Ecclestone has long been sceptical about the benefits of the new hybrid V6 turbo regulations, and has often spoken out against the noise the new power units make.
Amid on-going concerns about declining audiences, Ecclestone believes a quick fix to F1's problems would be to introduce revised V8s that produce 1000bhp. autosport.com 16/4/15
I agree with Hodgy about this GP. I seem to recall it being poor last year so it might be a Sky+ job & trip to Corals for Doncaster & Uttoxeter. |
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Post by admin on May 15, 2015 20:24:48 GMT
1 A. Jonsson (100) T. Woffinden (108) C. Harris (37) T. Jonasson (30)
2 M. Zagar (55) K. Kasprzak (507) T. Batchelor (75) C. Holder (23)
3 M. Janowski (71) T. Lahti (16) G. Hancock (45) J. Hampel (33)
4 N. Iversen (88) M. Jepsen Jensen (52) J. Doyle (69) N. Pedersen (3)
5 N. Pedersen (3) A. Jonsson (100) M. Zagar (55) G. Hancock (45)
6 M. Jepsen Jensen (52) M. Janowski (71) T. Woffinden (108) T. Batchelor (75)
7 T. Lahti (16) N. Iversen (88) K. Kasprzak (507) C. Harris (37)
8 T. Jonasson (30) C. Holder (23) J. Hampel (33) J. Doyle (69)
9 T. Batchelor (75) J. Doyle (69) A. Jonsson (100) T. Lahti (16)
10 J. Hampel (33) M. Zagar (55) N. Iversen (88) T. Woffinden (108)
11 C. Holder (23) G. Hancock (45) C. Harris (37) M. Jepsen Jensen (52)
12 N. Pedersen (3) T. Jonasson (30) M. Janowski (71) K. Kasprzak (507)
13 K. Kasprzak (507) J. Hampel (33) M. Jepsen Jensen (52) A. Jonsson (100)
14 T. Woffinden (108) N. Pedersen (3) C. Holder (23) T. Lahti (16)
15 J. Doyle (69) C. Harris (37) M. Janowski (71) M. Zagar (55)
16 G. Hancock (45) T. Batchelor (75) T. Jonasson (30) N. Iversen (88)
17 A. Jonsson (100) C. Holder (23) N. Iversen (88) M. Janowski (71)
18 G. Hancock (45) T. Woffinden (108) K. Kasprzak (507) J. Doyle (69)
19 C. Harris (37) J. Hampel (33) N. Pedersen (3) T. Batchelor (75)
20 M. Zagar (55) M. Jepsen Jensen (52) T. Lahti (16) T. Jonasson (30)
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Post by admin on May 15, 2015 20:42:44 GMT
Don't get why Woffinden is still favourite? Think that he had something that the others didn't when he won the tile but now he's just one of many? Well I've yet to be convinced otherwise as yet!  |
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Post by admin on May 17, 2015 7:50:12 GMT
Well it wasn't too bad. A bit of incident but more interesting in that if you mess the start & first turn up then you could finish last by a distance, even if you won your last race by a distance!
Looking at the empty seats, it make you wonder why they go there anyway?
FINNISH SGP SCORES: 1 Nicki Pedersen 16, 2 Tai Woffinden 17, 3 Andreas Jonsson 12, 4 Jaroslaw Hampel 11, 5 Jason Doyle 11, 6 Krzysztof Kasprzak 10, 7 Michael Jepsen Jensen 10, 8 Greg Hancock 9, 9 Matej Zagar 7, 10 Troy Batchelor 7, 11 Chris Holder 7, 12 Chris Harris 6, 13 Niels-Kristian Iversen 6, 14 Tomas H Jonasson 4, 15 Timo Lahti 3, 16 Maciej Janowski 2, 17 Nike Lunna 0, 18 Jiri Nieminen 0.
WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP STANDINGS:
1 Tai Woffinden 22 - so what do I know? Still not convinced that he'll stay there?
2 Nicki Pedersen 19 - always a threat and still riding at the top of his game.
3 Jaroslaw Hampel 18
4 Andreas Jonsson 16 - AJ usually has to arrive late into the top 8 but has a good start this year.
5 Matej Zagar 15
6 Jason Doyle 15
7 Michael Jepsen Jensen 15
8 Greg Hancock 14 - telling quote for me was that it didn't look like Hancock fancied it!
9 Krzysztof Kasprzak 13 - not going to stay in 10th.
10 Niels-Kristian Iversen 13 - looking like the 8 pointer Panthers loaned out.
11 Chris Harris 13 - Now, what other route can I use for the 2016 GP?
12 Tomas H Jonasson 8
13 Chris Holder 7 - not half the rider he was. Hope that he gets back there after the injuries.
14 Troy Batchelor 7 - hot & cold with top 8 being a result
15 Maciej Janowski 5
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Post by Bigcatdiary on May 17, 2015 8:17:16 GMT
Well it wasn't too bad. A bit of incident but more interesting in that if you mess the start & first turn up then you could finish last by a distance, even if you won your last race by a distance! Looking at the empty seats, it make you wonder why they go there anyway? FINNISH SGP SCORES: 1 Nicki Pedersen 16, 2 Tai Woffinden 17, 3 Andreas Jonsson 12, 4 Jaroslaw Hampel 11, 5 Jason Doyle 11, 6 Krzysztof Kasprzak 10, 7 Michael Jepsen Jensen 10, 8 Greg Hancock 9, 9 Matej Zagar 7, 10 Troy Batchelor 7, 11 Chris Holder 7, 12 Chris Harris 6, 13 Niels-Kristian Iversen 6, 14 Tomas H Jonasson 4, 15 Timo Lahti 3, 16 Maciej Janowski 2, 17 Nike Lunna 0, 18 Jiri Nieminen 0. WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP STANDINGS:1 Tai Woffinden 22 - so what do I know? Still not convinced that he'll stay there? 2 Nicki Pedersen 19 - always a threat and still riding at the top of his game. 3 Jaroslaw Hampel 18 4 Andreas Jonsson 16 - AJ usually has to arrive late into the top 8 but has a good start this year. 5 Matej Zagar 15 6 Jason Doyle 15 7 Michael Jepsen Jensen 15 8 Greg Hancock 14 - telling quote for me was that it didn't look like Hancock fancied it! 9 Krzysztof Kasprzak 13 - not going to stay in 10th. 10 Niels-Kristian Iversen 13 - looking like the 8 pointer Panthers loaned out. 11 Chris Harris 13 - Now, what other route can I use for the 2016 GP? 12 Tomas H Jonasson 8 13 Chris Holder 7 - not half the rider he was. Hope that he gets back there after the injuries. 14 Troy Batchelor 7 - hot & cold with top 8 being a result 15 Maciej Janowski 5 Well the BSF thread has slated it and to be fair I thought it was awful as well, far too wet and completely suited the trappers so not surprised to see Pedersen doing well although somewhat dissapointed for Woffinden who looked the likely winner. Iversen and Holder were both poor and just haven't looked on the pace this year. This years series badly needs a good one now but I don't see it happening in Prague, the tracks complete pants,. Not a good start. |
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Post by admin on May 17, 2015 9:13:51 GMT
Well the BSF thread has slated it and to be fair I thought it was awful as well, far too wet and completely suited the trappers so not surprised to see Pedersen doing well although somewhat dissapointed for Woffinden who looked the likely winner. Iversen and Holder were both poor and just haven't looked on the pace this year. This years series badly needs a good one now but I don't see it happening in Prague, the tracks complete pants,. Not a good start. I was coming from the standpoint that based on last year it'd be poor and anything of interest was a bonus. It was poor but there was something in the programme overall to interest me. They said last time that the field is as strong as it could be apart from a couple of exceptions. That may be true, or up for debate at least, but a whole series of that field is gonna be a struggle. That could have been run at the MCN event last night. Now that would have been a meeting, and packed out! |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 11:26:14 GMT
In a word TURGID. BSI are killing the sport.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 17:51:47 GMT
That could have been run at the MCN event last night. Now that would have been a meeting, and packed out! Wasn't that a missed opportunity. I remember back in the day when Peter Collins was World Champion that they had a centre spread poster of him. I don't know if they even cover speedway any more or have seen the sport for what it is and have moved on. However, given that Kevin Schwanz was riding in something not disimilar to speedway at the EoE it would surely have been a great PR coup for Panthers to have put on a Sunday PM meeting. Or is it that real bikers think speedway is a joke as well? |
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Post by Bigcatdiary on May 18, 2015 20:15:57 GMT
In a word TURGID. BSI are killing the sport. To be fair I think a lot of the grief at the moment is down to some of the people who work for BSI and in particular Ole Olsen. |
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Post by admin on May 18, 2015 20:30:44 GMT
Wasn't that a missed opportunity. I remember back in the day when Peter Collins was World Champion that they had a centre spread poster of him. I don't know if they even cover speedway any more or have seen the sport for what it is and have moved on. However, given that Kevin Schwanz was riding in something not disimilar to speedway at the EoE it would surely have been a great PR coup for Panthers to have put on a Sunday PM meeting. Or is it that real bikers think speedway is a joke as well? If we were any good these days then I'm sure that they'd report it but on the whole we're rubbish. I think that Woffinden got coverage when he won the title. Speedway doesn't really relate to biking in general which explains IMO why they don't cover it and we don't see many visible bikers at speedway. In Panther early years there used to be loads of bikers in attendance, but in today's sanitised sport it doesn't really stack up against Moto GP, WSB or British Superbikes. Tetley did try to explain why there wasn't a meeting (seem strange for those of us who attended speedway during many such events over the years:
Trevor Swales: To put a meeting on whilst there is other events going on would be nearly impossible we would not have time to get track ready and riders would need paying and we would not be able to charge separate entry this is just a couple of things that would have to be looked at really hard before it could happen. We will be in attendance for the whole weekend though with our sponsors highly visible. Please come along and enjoy the weekend (May 2). From FB Read more: borospeedway.proboards.com/thread/2452/panthers-glasgow-date-tbc-fri#ixzz3aWUcb4Xf |
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