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Post by admin on Mar 3, 2016 20:29:45 GMT
Sunday 24th April 2016 - Barclays Premier League
Man City V Stoke
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Sunderland V Arsenal
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Leicester V Swansea
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 3, 2016 23:49:11 GMT
Sunday 24th April 2016 - Barclays Premier LeagueMan City V Stoke 12:00 Sunderland V Arsenal 14:05 Leicester V Swansea 16:15 Thanks!!! Speedway it is then. |
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Post by admin on Mar 5, 2016 13:55:24 GMT
Sunday 24th April 2016 - Barclays Premier LeagueMan City V Stoke 12:00 Sunderland V Arsenal 14:05 Leicester V Swansea 16:15 Thanks!!! Speedway it is then. Those 3 or turning out to listen to Craig Saul? Enjoy it and say one for me! |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 6, 2016 23:04:23 GMT
Thanks!!! Speedway it is then. Those 3 or turning out to listen to Craig Saul? Enjoy it and say one for me! You really have drifted if these footy games are your preference. Each to their own. I don't turn out to listen to C Saul, usually switch off during the interviews - not difficult due to crap sound quality. My one request is just get on with it - the waiting around is my pet hate. |
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Post by admin on Mar 6, 2016 23:37:12 GMT
Those 3 or turning out to listen to Craig Saul? Enjoy it and say one for me! You really have drifted if these footy games are your preference. Each to their own. I don't turn out to listen to C Saul, usually switch off during the interviews - not difficult due to crap sound quality. My one request is just get on with it - the waiting around is my pet hate. It's the club that's drifted not me. Also, as my chosen seat is near a loud annoying speaker then it's impossible to ignore his all too frequent interruptions. I agree totally about getting on with it. That also solves the rubbish presentation issue because there isn't time for it (scrap the bloody interval as well). I was just saying to my mate that only this fixture and May 15 are slightly affected by football (haven't checked Euro 2016 yet) so they've actually done quite well on fixture planning thus far. There are only 2 Sunday fixtures (4TT apart) scheduled after the end of May anyway |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 7, 2016 0:37:10 GMT
You really have drifted if these footy games are your preference. Each to their own. I don't turn out to listen to C Saul, usually switch off during the interviews - not difficult due to crap sound quality. My one request is just get on with it - the waiting around is my pet hate. It's the club that's drifted not me. Also, as my chosen seat is near a loud annoying speaker then it's impossible to ignore his all too frequent interruptions. I agree totally about getting on with it. That also solves the rubbish presentation issue because there isn't time for it (scrap the bloody interval as well). I was just saying to my mate that only this fixture and May 15 are slightly affected by football (haven't checked Euro 2016 yet) so they've actually done quite well on fixture planning thus far. There are only 2 Sunday fixtures (4TT apart) scheduled after the end of May anyway The club haven't drifted - only back to their 'just' sustainable level. Lived beyond their means for longer than expected. The current EL is not the place to be. I am however impressed with the British youth set up - better than I can ever recall before. Why choose a seat near a loud annoying speaker? Plenty of other options. Totally agree, scrap the bloody interval. Completely unnecessary. |
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Post by admin on Mar 7, 2016 8:48:48 GMT
We're never going to agree on where the club is in terms of status so we can knock that on the head.
I've always sat where I do. It's the output that's the problem, not the speaker! When the presentation is good and those doing it are competent and interesting (and used sparingly) then it's fine. That situation has been few and far between over the last two seasons and the complete entertainment package it isn't.
If I consumed alcohol to numb the pain (I don't drink) then that seems to be the drug needed to compensate.
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 7, 2016 12:39:21 GMT
We're never going to agree on where the club is in terms of status so we can knock that on the head. I've always sat where I do. It's the output that's the problem, not the speaker! When the presentation is good and those doing it are competent and interesting (and used sparingly) then it's fine. That situation has been few and far between over the last two seasons and the complete entertainment package it isn't. If I consumed alcohol to numb the pain (I don't drink) then that seems to be the drug needed to compensate. Yes agree you will always be wrong regarding club status  I don't drink anymore......................I don't drink any less  |
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Post by admin on Mar 7, 2016 14:23:57 GMT
Yes agree you will always be wrong regarding club status I don't drink anymore......................I don't drink any less Time will tell! If average is your bag then so be it. And yes I know that the current EL isn't even average, but one day it might get back to decent! In terms of the club's status, I think you've misunderstood the board philosopy, which is: "We discuss it for a few posts and then we decide I was right." Cloughie also said this though which is testing his credibilty at the moment: "Anybody who can do anything in Leicester but make a jumper has got to be a genius." The topic seems to have drifted towards the fence. Better start a new thread on something  |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 7, 2016 22:44:06 GMT
Yes agree you will always be wrong regarding club status I don't drink anymore......................I don't drink any less Time will tell! If average is your bag then so be it. And yes I know that the current EL isn't even average, but one day it might get back to decent! In terms of the club's status, I think you've misunderstood the board philosopy, which is: "We discuss it for a few posts and then we decide I was right." Cloughie also said this though which is testing his credibilty at the moment: "Anybody who can do anything in Leicester but make a jumper has got to be a genius." The topic seems to have drifted towards the fence. Better start a new thread on something Do you go to watch Posh? Depends what you mean by average. I see it as the best of the 3 leagues for entertainment opportunity. The doubling up, guests, RR will probably lessen my enthusiasm. Would be great to get back to a decent EL, optimistic, but it appears the BSPA are finally realising they need to listen to the punters. We will only ever get there with a sheikh Mansour. Yes, let's not go there. |
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Post by admin on Mar 8, 2016 8:11:26 GMT
Do you go to watch Posh? Depends what you mean by average. I see it as the best of the 3 leagues for entertainment opportunity. The doubling up, guests, RR will probably lessen my enthusiasm. Would be great to get back to a decent EL, optimistic, but it appears the BSPA are finally realising they need to listen to the punters. We will only ever get there with a sheikh Mansour. Yes, let's not go there. I do watch Posh when the glory hunters haven't booked my seat. I go to the bread and butter matches when getting a seat isn't a problem, so just the FAC and not turning out on a Tuesday have been missed so far. If you're saying that Posh are at their level then on the face of it I'd agree, but so were Swansea, Bournemouth and many championship sides who have built their club and fanbase. I'd admit that there is an alternative list of clubs who overstretched themselves and got it wrong, but D.Mac still wants to go forward unless he's changed his mind? The club policy of being the selling club that it wasn't when he first arrived is not compatible with that ambition. We know that domestic speedway is in a mess but the PL is still second best on paper if not necessarily on track at the moment. You can be happy with what you've got and I can hope for another Rick Frost who surrounds themselves with the right people and plays the game without falling out with people - it's all about opinions and you and I are usually miles apart |
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Post by rodders on Mar 8, 2016 16:49:38 GMT
I agree with Riggers!!
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 8, 2016 21:54:31 GMT
Do you go to watch Posh? Depends what you mean by average. I see it as the best of the 3 leagues for entertainment opportunity. The doubling up, guests, RR will probably lessen my enthusiasm. Would be great to get back to a decent EL, optimistic, but it appears the BSPA are finally realising they need to listen to the punters. We will only ever get there with a sheikh Mansour. Yes, let's not go there. I do watch Posh when the glory hunters haven't booked my seat. I go to the bread and butter matches when getting a seat isn't a problem, so just the FAC and not turning out on a Tuesday have been missed so far. If you're saying that Posh are at their level then on the face of it I'd agree, but so were Swansea, Bournemouth and many championship sides who have built their club and fanbase. I'd admit that there is an alternative list of clubs who overstretched themselves and got it wrong, but D.Mac still wants to go forward unless he's changed his mind? The club policy of being the selling club that it wasn't when he first arrived is not compatible with that ambition. We know that domestic speedway is in a mess but the PL is still second best on paper if not necessarily on track at the moment. You can be happy with what you've got and I can hope for another Rick Frost who surrounds themselves with the right people and plays the game without falling out with people - it's all about opinions and you and I are usually miles apart As I thought - average is your bag where Posh are concerned. They tasted the luxury of a higher league but now back to their level you still attend and support - but not Panthers even though PL is better entertainment (and value) v EL. Can't say that for Leauge 1 v Championship. Perfect examples with Swansea and Bournemouth, they will eventually be back at their level or at worst administration if they lose the sugar daddy. Enjoy it while it lasts. I like D Mac, he has a great combination of business head and openness with the supporters. He appears a logical guy therefore wouldn't go near speedway - all spend with no return. We are not that far apart regarding our opinions. I am only happy that we still have Speedway in Peterborough, it's been touch and go for years so I will take it while I can. We will eventually lose it. I would also very much welcome a Frost with the right people in a competitive top tier but can't see either happening. |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 8, 2016 21:58:31 GMT
What is it you agree with Rodders? |
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Post by admin on Mar 8, 2016 23:25:26 GMT
As I thought - average is your bag where Posh are concerned. They tasted the luxury of a higher league but now back to their level you still attend and support - but not Panthers even though PL is better entertainment (and value) v EL. Can't say that for Leauge 1 v Championship. Perfect examples with Swansea and Bournemouth, they will eventually be back at their level or at worst administration if they lose the sugar daddy. Enjoy it while it lasts. I like D Mac, he has a great combination of business head and openness with the supporters. He appears a logical guy therefore wouldn't go near speedway - all spend with no return. We are not that far apart regarding our opinions. I am only happy that we still have Speedway in Peterborough, it's been touch and go for years so I will take it while I can. We will eventually lose it. I would also very much welcome a Frost with the right people in a competitive top tier but can't see either happening. Fair points, difference being that Posh haven't won the Premiership twice or had the world's best in their ranks or as regular visitors, which is a 2 league leap in football terms. I might not have been so happy if we were then slipping down the leagues although football is not that different throughout the leagues (outside of the Prem) IMO. Posh's starting point each season is still to go up so that's not settling for average. The PL is not better entertainment and the presentation has gone backwards so it needs to be cheaper tbh. It is better than nothing though for those who want it and if we can get away from the "will we won't we" every winter then that's not a bad thing. |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 9, 2016 23:19:47 GMT
As I thought - average is your bag where Posh are concerned. They tasted the luxury of a higher league but now back to their level you still attend and support - but not Panthers even though PL is better entertainment (and value) v EL. Can't say that for Leauge 1 v Championship. Perfect examples with Swansea and Bournemouth, they will eventually be back at their level or at worst administration if they lose the sugar daddy. Enjoy it while it lasts. I like D Mac, he has a great combination of business head and openness with the supporters. He appears a logical guy therefore wouldn't go near speedway - all spend with no return. We are not that far apart regarding our opinions. I am only happy that we still have Speedway in Peterborough, it's been touch and go for years so I will take it while I can. We will eventually lose it. I would also very much welcome a Frost with the right people in a competitive top tier but can't see either happening. Fair points, difference being that Posh haven't won the Premiership twice or had the world's best in their ranks or as regular visitors, which is a 2 league leap in football terms. I might not have been so happy if we were then slipping down the leagues although football is not that different throughout the leagues (outside of the Prem) IMO. Posh's starting point each season is still to go up so that's not settling for average. The PL is not better entertainment and the presentation has gone backwards so it needs to be cheaper tbh. It is better than nothing though for those who want it and if we can get away from the "will we won't we" every winter then that's not a bad thing. Understand your comparison but my point is those days are gone. The EL has changed immensely since those memorable occasions you refer. It's nowhere near premiership (football) in terms of top tier winners. The only people that recall those titles are the people that were there. The BSPA had a great opportunity to promote the sport with Sky but self interest has always screwed it up. It always needs to be cheaper, but would that Increase your attendance!!! In my opinion the PL today is much better value than the £17/18 EL. The current regime have put together a team to challenge for the league, as they did last season - not just settling for average. Isn't that the same / similar starting point as Posh? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 7:27:29 GMT
Fair points, difference being that Posh haven't won the Premiership twice or had the world's best in their ranks or as regular visitors, which is a 2 league leap in football terms. I might not have been so happy if we were then slipping down the leagues although football is not that different throughout the leagues (outside of the Prem) IMO. Posh's starting point each season is still to go up so that's not settling for average. The PL is not better entertainment and the presentation has gone backwards so it needs to be cheaper tbh. It is better than nothing though for those who want it and if we can get away from the "will we won't we" every winter then that's not a bad thing. The current regime have put together a team to challenge for the league, as they did last season - not just settling for average. Isn't that the same / similar starting point as Posh? not convinced about that part no no1 and near 2pts under limit .... panthers don't seem to have played the numbers game well and have made a cock up on team building |
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Post by admin on Mar 10, 2016 8:28:01 GMT
Fair points, difference being that Posh haven't won the Premiership twice or had the world's best in their ranks or as regular visitors, which is a 2 league leap in football terms. I might not have been so happy if we were then slipping down the leagues although football is not that different throughout the leagues (outside of the Prem) IMO. Posh's starting point each season is still to go up so that's not settling for average. The PL is not better entertainment and the presentation has gone backwards so it needs to be cheaper tbh. It is better than nothing though for those who want it and if we can get away from the "will we won't we" every winter then that's not a bad thing. Understand your comparison but my point is those days are gone. The EL has changed immensely since those memorable occasions you refer. It's nowhere near premiership (football) in terms of top tier winners. The only people that recall those titles are the people that were there. The BSPA had a great opportunity to promote the sport with Sky but self interest has always screwed it up. It always needs to be cheaper, but would that Increase your attendance!!! In my opinion the PL today is much better value than the £17/18 EL. The current regime have put together a team to challenge for the league, as they did last season - not just settling for average. Isn't that the same / similar starting point as Posh? As I've said it's there for those who want it. I do remember when it was so much better so you're right in that that's mine, and others, problem. It was only a couple of years ago though so I don't think that you can sweep it under the carpet so quickly. We can argue about the detail all day but the fact is that from competing on equal terms with the best in the sport we now make up the numbers without any ambition to get back there. If Posh win the league they move up a level and then need to strengthen to survive, with the objective to move on further (unless they reached the Premiership of course!). If Panthers win the Prem they go nowhere, dismantle and weaken the side and try to go nowhere the next season, so there isn't much similarity IMO. |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 10, 2016 23:00:34 GMT
Understand your comparison but my point is those days are gone. The EL has changed immensely since those memorable occasions you refer. It's nowhere near premiership (football) in terms of top tier winners. The only people that recall those titles are the people that were there. The BSPA had a great opportunity to promote the sport with Sky but self interest has always screwed it up. It always needs to be cheaper, but would that Increase your attendance!!! In my opinion the PL today is much better value than the £17/18 EL. The current regime have put together a team to challenge for the league, as they did last season - not just settling for average. Isn't that the same / similar starting point as Posh? As I've said it's there for those who want it. I do remember when it was so much better so you're right in that that's mine, and others, problem. It was only a couple of years ago though so I don't think that you can sweep it under the carpet so quickly. We can argue about the detail all day but the fact is that from competing on equal terms with the best in the sport we now make up the numbers without any ambition to get back there. If Posh win the league they move up a level and then need to strengthen to survive, with the objective to move on further (unless they reached the Premiership of course!). If Panthers win the Prem they go nowhere, dismantle and weaken the side and try to go nowhere the next season, so there isn't much similarity IMO. It's not about ambition, it's about survival. Unfortunately Panthers don't have a D Mac - Posh would decline rapidly without him, to less than average. A couple of years ago the EL was very different. That is my point, the gap between the two leagues is too close v the running costs, so what is the attraction to live beyond your means? Today I was talking with the new Leicester sponsor, he admitted they are basically a PL level team. They tried to sign Sayfutdinov, Woffinden, Hancock, Pedersen etc... Not interested, don't want or need the EL. One of them wanted 4K just to say yes, in addition to considerable points money. How times have changed. If Panthers win the Prem they dismantle and weaken due to stupid rules, not choice. Moving up would probably finish them. |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 11, 2016 0:17:53 GMT
The current regime have put together a team to challenge for the league, as they did last season - not just settling for average. Isn't that the same / similar starting point as Posh? not convinced about that part no no1 and near 2pts under limit .... panthers don't seem to have played the numbers game well and have made a cock up on team building Don't think it was for the want of trying. Still think they have done well to put a competitive team together, last and this season, given where we were this time last year. |
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Post by admin on Mar 11, 2016 21:29:23 GMT
As I've said it's there for those who want it. I do remember when it was so much better so you're right in that that's mine, and others, problem. It was only a couple of years ago though so I don't think that you can sweep it under the carpet so quickly. We can argue about the detail all day but the fact is that from competing on equal terms with the best in the sport we now make up the numbers without any ambition to get back there. If Posh win the league they move up a level and then need to strengthen to survive, with the objective to move on further (unless they reached the Premiership of course!). If Panthers win the Prem they go nowhere, dismantle and weaken the side and try to go nowhere the next season, so there isn't much similarity IMO. It's not about ambition, it's about survival. Unfortunately Panthers don't have a D Mac - Posh would decline rapidly without him, to less than average. A couple of years ago the EL was very different. That is my point, the gap between the two leagues is too close v the running costs, so what is the attraction to live beyond your means? Today I was talking with the new Leicester sponsor, he admitted they are basically a PL level team. They tried to sign Sayfutdinov, Woffinden, Hancock, Pedersen etc... Not interested, don't want or need the EL. One of them wanted 4K just to say yes, in addition to considerable points money. How times have changed. If Panthers win the Prem they dismantle and weaken due to stupid rules, not choice. Moving up would probably finish them. So how many tracks in the EL make money? Do any? Why do they do it when they could have, allegedly, a sustainable life outside of the EL? |
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Post by Hodgy on Mar 11, 2016 23:01:31 GMT
It's not about ambition, it's about survival. Unfortunately Panthers don't have a D Mac - Posh would decline rapidly without him, to less than average. A couple of years ago the EL was very different. That is my point, the gap between the two leagues is too close v the running costs, so what is the attraction to live beyond your means? Today I was talking with the new Leicester sponsor, he admitted they are basically a PL level team. They tried to sign Sayfutdinov, Woffinden, Hancock, Pedersen etc... Not interested, don't want or need the EL. One of them wanted 4K just to say yes, in addition to considerable points money. How times have changed. If Panthers win the Prem they dismantle and weaken due to stupid rules, not choice. Moving up would probably finish them. So how many tracks in the EL make money? Do any? Why do they do it when they could have, allegedly, a sustainable life outside of the EL? Very few I would guess make a profit. In my opinion Poole are the only club to have worked it well - Ford, love or loathe, is the Frost you hope for. It's not that long ago they were on the edge in the PL. Others have survived on a loyal fan base / sponsorship that are rapidly losing their enthusiasm. Only 8 clubs left in the EL - half are on life support. Don't foresee all doing it for much longer. I don't mean to appear negative, only realistic. I want what you want but do you really think we could make it work in the current EL without a Ford? |
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Post by admin on Mar 12, 2016 22:21:51 GMT
Ford, love or loathe, is the Frost you hope for. And so we're back at the beginning. It was not apparently going so swimmingly at Poole but our promoter/owner at that time decided to demote us and hand us to the supremo for a disastrous season whilst stabilising our biggest rivals > think that I think that it's money rather than personnel if the EL survives and once again becomes something worth being a member of Better post the full story rather than a link as the text could go AWOL:
PROMOTER Matt Ford believes the future of Poole Speedway is ‘protected’ after revealing a two-year sponsorship with plant hire company Readypower. The deal with previous main title sponsors Coastal Aluminium expired in November, two months after it had emerged that the Poole company was set to be liquidated. Poole Speedway’s new contract with Wokingham-based Readypower – the business of Peterborough Panthers co-owners Rick Frost and partner Julie Mahoney – is worth a six-figure sum over two years. And Ford predicts a bright future for the Elite League champions, who will go in search of a fourth top-flight title in five years in 2015. The Pirates chief told the Daily Echo: “We’ve been very lucky to have some great sponsors over the years and our thanks go out to each and every one of them. “Sadly, Coastal Aluminium had problems last year which had a huge impact on the company and its staff, as well as on the finance coming into our club. “This new deal is a great move for us. It stabilises the club and helps us move forward in terms of building our asset base and protecting the future of Poole Speedway. “The deal came about as a result of a tongue-in-cheek conversation between myself and Julie. I contacted her to discuss the transfer of Dakota North and jokingly said that it would be great to have Readypower come on board as our main sponsors. “It was just a cheeky comment but she came back to me the following morning to say they were interested. Since then we’ve had a couple of get-togethers to discuss things and I’m incredibly proud to bring such a prestigious and successful company onto the Pirates ship.” Ford admitted that he hoped Pirates’ association with Readypower would extend beyond the duration of the current contract and said he was keen to boost the company’s presence on the south coast. Promoted stories The promoter added: “It is a two-year deal and I see no reason why that wouldn’t continue. Share article “If we can be successful on the track then that will certainly help matters in terms of getting the Readypower name across to everybody. “It’s a bit of a new opening for them down here and I’m really keen to work with Readypower in order to get them a presence in the local area.” bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/Speedway__Readypower_deal__stabilises__Poole/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 9:33:46 GMT
Ford, love or loathe, is the Frost you hope for. And so we're back at the beginning. It was not apparently going so swimmingly at Poole but our promoter/owner at that time decided to demote us and hand us to the supremo for a disastrous season whilst stabalising our biggest rivals > think that I think that it's money rather than personnel if the EL survives and once again becomes something worth being a member of Better post the full story rather than a link as the text could go AWOL:
PROMOTER Matt Ford believes the future of Poole Speedway is ‘protected’ after revealing a two-year sponsorship with plant hire company Readypower. The deal with previous main title sponsors Coastal Aluminium expired in November, two months after it had emerged that the Poole company was set to be liquidated. Poole Speedway’s new contract with Wokingham-based Readypower – the business of Peterborough Panthers co-owners Rick Frost and partner Julie Mahoney – is worth a six-figure sum over two years. And Ford predicts a bright future for the Elite League champions, who will go in search of a fourth top-flight title in five years in 2015. The Pirates chief told the Daily Echo: “We’ve been very lucky to have some great sponsors over the years and our thanks go out to each and every one of them. “Sadly, Coastal Aluminium had problems last year which had a huge impact on the company and its staff, as well as on the finance coming into our club. “This new deal is a great move for us. It stabilises the club and helps us move forward in terms of building our asset base and protecting the future of Poole Speedway. “The deal came about as a result of a tongue-in-cheek conversation between myself and Julie. I contacted her to discuss the transfer of Dakota North and jokingly said that it would be great to have Readypower come on board as our main sponsors. “It was just a cheeky comment but she came back to me the following morning to say they were interested. Since then we’ve had a couple of get-togethers to discuss things and I’m incredibly proud to bring such a prestigious and successful company onto the Pirates ship.” Ford admitted that he hoped Pirates’ association with Readypower would extend beyond the duration of the current contract and said he was keen to boost the company’s presence on the south coast. Promoted stories The promoter added: “It is a two-year deal and I see no reason why that wouldn’t continue. Share article “If we can be successful on the track then that will certainly help matters in terms of getting the Readypower name across to everybody. “It’s a bit of a new opening for them down here and I’m really keen to work with Readypower in order to get them a presence in the local area.” bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/Speedway__Readypower_deal__stabilises__Poole/
As you say, we're not that far apart in our opinions, just good at putting our point across. At least I think so anyway I think that we can knock this on the head now. with the money the frosts pumped in panthers they should have walked the league year in year out , they made the huge mistakes of relying on bjerre and swales + in hindsight oakes ....steachman was worse than swales as a team manager (never thought that would be possible) ... but soon as the right man took over Sullivan the team performed shame it ended |
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