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Post by admin on Nov 27, 2023 17:00:13 GMT
mycommunity.org.uk/what-are-assets-of-community-value-acv
From Cllr Julie Stevenson of Orton Waterville (27/11/23) - for the non Facebook users: IMPORTANT NEWS: SAVE PETERBOROUGH SPEEDWAYAs part of the ongoing effort to protect Peterborough’s speedway track and team (Peterborough Panthers), Orton Waterville Parish Council is to debate whether it is in the public interest to register the track as an Asset of Community Value (ACV). If the parish council votes in favour of initiating the ACV registration process, it may put a halt to any intentions to destroy the speedway track. What is an ACV? The Localism Act of 2011 created a provision that allows ‘defined community groups’, such as parish councils, to ask their local authority to list assets that meet the relevant criteria as being of ‘community value’. The Localism Act defines an asset of community value if:Its actual or current use (or there is a time in the recent past when its use) furthers the social wellbeing or social interests of the local community, and It is realistic to think that there can continue to be (or it is realistic to think that there is a time in the next five years) non-ancillary use of the asset that would further the social wellbeing or social interests of the local community. The debate will take place between members of the parish council during a meeting of Orton Waterville parish council on Wednesday 29th November 2023. If the decision is taken to register the track as an ACV, the next step will be for the parish council to ask Peterborough City Council to initiate the registration process.
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Post by admin on Nov 27, 2023 17:05:20 GMT
18 Jul 2023 leeds.gov.uk/news/leeds-city-council-confirms-elland-road-as-asset-of-community-value
Leeds United’s Elland Road ground has been named as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) by Leeds City Council.The council placed Elland Road on its list of ACVs after considering a nomination from the Leeds United Supporters’ Trust (LUST) that was backed by the football club. The award of ACV status to a building or piece of land means that, should an owner decide to sell, then the local community will normally be given an opportunity to bid for it on the open market. Elland Road was originally named by the council as one of the city’s ACVs in late 2017, following a previous nomination from LUST. Under the terms of the Localism Act 2011, sites remain on a local authority’s ACV list for five years at a time. LUST’s newly-approved nomination was submitted after the recent expiry of Elland Road’s original listing period. A spokesperson for Leeds City Council said: “The council can confirm that Elland Road has been included in its list of Assets of Community Value following a nomination by the Leeds United Supporters’ Trust. “As is standard procedure, the nomination was carefully assessed by the council according to criteria set out in the Localism Act 2011. “When those criteria are met, as they were in this case, then the building or piece of land in question becomes an Asset of Community Value.” Councillor James Lewis, leader of Leeds City Council, said: “Elland Road is part of the fabric of life in our city, so I’m delighted that it has once again been confirmed as an Asset of Community Value.“As a season ticket holder, I know how much the ground means to all Leeds fans. It’s seen plenty of ups and downs over the years, but it is our home and long may it remain so. “As a council, we are hugely proud of Leeds’s reputation as a top-class sporting city and the role that famous venues like Elland Road play in raising our national and international profile.”More details about the ACV listing can be found in this Leeds United Supporters’ Trust press release.Notes to editors:All district and unitary councils in England are required to maintain a list of local ACVs. A building or piece of land can be classed as an ACV if its use furthers the social wellbeing or interests of a community.
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Post by admin on Nov 30, 2023 10:09:35 GMT
Well had this been approved one would have expected a splash last night or this morning but we have silence. Is that good or bad? Who can tell?
I was hoping for a win here because every threat of game changing action that we've made has been a damp squib thus far. We're not running, our future, if there is one, is more than a little uncertain whilst AEPG keep plodding along and chipping away towards their main objective.
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Post by rodders on Nov 30, 2023 15:17:54 GMT
Well had this been approved one would have expected a splash last night or this morning but we have silence. Is that good or bad? Who can tell? I was hoping for a win here because every threat of game changing action that we've made has been a damp squib thus far. We're not running, our future, if there is one, is more than a little uncertain whilst AEPG keep plodding along and chipping away towards their main objective. Difficult to understand how if seems the case this has not between approved!! We may not know full facts but on the face of it Panthers have been betrayed by Parish Council. |
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Post by admin on Nov 30, 2023 15:38:57 GMT
Well had this been approved one would have expected a splash last night or this morning but we have silence. Is that good or bad? Who can tell? I was hoping for a win here because every threat of game changing action that we've made has been a damp squib thus far. We're not running, our future, if there is one, is more than a little uncertain whilst AEPG keep plodding along and chipping away towards their main objective. Difficult to understand how if seems the case this has not been approved!! We may not know full facts but on the face of it Panthers have been betrayed by Parish Council. Did seem a slam dunk to me Rodders. IMO it didn't even need a debate? The only reason that I didn't suggest it when the bloke on the BSF pointed it out was because I didn't understand this: "The award of ACV status to a building or piece of land means that, should an owner decide to sell, then the local community will normally be given an opportunity to bid for it on the open market"Bearing in mind that the owner wants to sell now and the local community couldn't afford it so I couldn't square that circle. |
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Post by admin on Nov 30, 2023 15:54:52 GMT
Well had this been approved one would have expected a splash last night or this morning but we have silence. Is that good or bad? Who can tell? I was hoping for a win here because every threat of game changing action that we've made has been a damp squib thus far. We're not running, our future, if there is one, is more than a little uncertain whilst AEPG keep plodding along and chipping away towards their main objective. Difficult to understand how if seems the case this has not between approved!! We may not know full facts but on the face of it Panthers have been betrayed by Parish Council. You need to take that back Rodders. I was arguing with Bald Bloke and missed this on the BSF:  |
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Post by rodders on Nov 30, 2023 19:15:08 GMT
Difficult to understand how if seems the case this has not between approved!! We may not know full facts but on the face of it Panthers have been betrayed by Parish Council. You need to take that back Rodders. I was arguing with Bald Bloke and missed this on the BSF: Plenty of caveats in my post to make apologies unnecessary. However this is a forward step and I do apologise |
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Post by admin on Nov 30, 2023 20:53:52 GMT
Well had this been approved one would have expected a splash last night or this morning but we have silence. Is that good or bad? Who can tell?I was hoping for a win here because every threat of game changing action that we've made has been a damp squib thus far. We're not running, our future, if there is one, is more than a little uncertain whilst AEPG keep plodding along and chipping away towards their main objective. I thought that they were probably waiting on the ET though bratters broke it earlier. Another pretty depressing read tbh:
Peterborough Panthers: Speedway fan club launches bid to make stadium a protected community assetThe motorcycle racing team have been left without a stadium while the East of England Showground undergoes redevelopment. Peterborough Panthers Speedway Supporters Club is launching a new initiative to try to save its team’s stadium from demolition. The fan club, backed by Orton Waterville Parish Council, has said it will mount a bid to have the East of England Showground stadium designated an Asset of Community Value (ACV), offering it extra protection from redevelopment. The club agreed with the parish council at a meeting this week that it’ll fill out the necessary Peterborough City Council (PCC) forms to submit an application to this end as it continues its campaign to save the track. But members acknowledged that demolition works at the stadium have already begun – with a safety fence and roofing removed – although they said that these works are “cosmetic” and that it could hypothetically return to use in under a month. There will be no motorbike racing at the stadium next year, though, as the deadline for entry into the speedway league has passed, and its long-term future remains in jeopardy. This is because the Showground, including the stadium on its grounds, is at an early phase of complete redevelopment.Stadium at risk of redevelopmentPlanning applications have been submitted to build 1,500 new homes on the site as well as a hotel, school and ‘leisure village’. Supporters club members say they want the speedway track to be part of this offering, but developers maintain that this is simply unviable. AEPG, agents of the Showground’s owners – the East of England Agricultural Society (EEAS) – say that speedway would have to cease at the site regardless of any planning applications for new developments on the land. It was already causing a significant financial loss, AEPG said, and would only continue to do so in future. Despite this, Peterborough Panthers fans hope that community value status will help support their campaign. What is an Asset of Community Value?ACV status, which lasts for five years, can be considered when determining planning applications, including as a reason for refusing demolition, and means its owners must inform the council if it wishes to sell it. If the community group which bids for ACV status wants to buy it, this can trigger a six-month pause in the sale to allow them to raise funds to buy it. An ACV can also be compulsorily purchased by the local council.
But ACV status doesn’t mean an asset is definitely protected from redevelopment even if it’s granted – which it may or may not be.
Orton Waterville Parish Council parish councillors raised concerns at their meeting with the Panthers fan club that a PCC staff member had written on social media that it won’t go through. - really? sackable offence, but then again it's the public sector where the sack is just a four letter dictionary word.Cllr Julie Stevenson (Independent, Orton Waterville) said that “whether or not it goes through is not the point”. “We’re going to show good faith and apply," she added. Cllr Stevenson continued that PCC’s head of planning recommended this course of action to the parish council – so it was unclear why this view had been shared online. |
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Post by admin on Dec 7, 2023 17:59:37 GMT
One assumes that as PCC can't seem to touch anything with an ongoing planning application/case/process going on then they'll not touch this with a barge pole?
Much like the petition that never happened: how to try to save Peterborough Speedway without actually mentioning why you are petitioning and why Peterborough Panthers are under threat, although without a 2024 it's a bit more serious than that!
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Post by admin on Dec 31, 2023 12:49:34 GMT
One assumes that as PCC can't seem to touch anything with an ongoing planning application/case/process going on then they'll not touch this with a barge pole?Much like the petition that never happened: how to try to save Peterborough Speedway without actually mentioning why you are petitioning and why Peterborough Panthers are under threat, although without a 2024 it's a bit more serious than that! The application went in so one assumes that we'll get the non decision soon in the new year? Another thing that should have happened years ago? List of Assets of Community Value - December 2023List of Rejected Assets of Community Value - December 2023 |
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Post by admin on Jan 23, 2024 12:43:17 GMT
Can anyone decipher this in plain English in terms of Peterborough Speedway?  We urgently need evidence, which we will submit, in two areas to assist our application. 1) whether Peterborough Speedway is or has in the recent past being used to further social wellbeing or the social interests of the local community which is not an ancillary use. 2) whether it is realistic to think that such a use if current may continue in the future or if it was in the recent past may occur at a time in the next five years. Guests can post a response.
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Post by admin on Jan 23, 2024 22:18:01 GMT
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Post by admin on Jan 30, 2024 20:12:41 GMT
Wonder if after today's meeting there will be any news on Peterborough Speedway's application? Assuming that we don't already know? I doubt PCC will go near it? The seem to get the shakes when anything associated with planning is mentioned! Agenda - Growth, Resources and Communities Scrutiny Committee - Tuesday 30th January, 2024 6.00 pmitem 9. Localities Assets Review - Update pdf icon PDF 227 KB Additional documents: Item 9. Appendix 1 - Schedule of Sites, Initial Proposals and Recommendations , item 9.pdf icon PDF 35 KB democracy.peterborough.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=748&MId=4929 |
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Post by rodders on Jan 30, 2024 21:35:36 GMT
Seems to me councilors have abrogated any responsibility. Kick them out at next election
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Post by admin on Jan 31, 2024 11:23:08 GMT
Seems to me councilors have abrogated any responsibility. Kick them out at next election They'd just be replaced by a similar group of collective thinkers. Any rebels would soon have their individuality and free thinking kicked out of them. I'm not sure where such an AVC sits within this review anyway? My understanding of it is that the cash strapped PCC is just looking for things to sell, which I can't see is relevant in our case? The only thing that the process does is knacker the progress of anything with in the system with "asset" in the title |
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Post by admin on Feb 8, 2024 11:46:20 GMT
Seems to me councillors have abrogated any responsibility. Kick them out at next election As usual, they'll make a lot of noise but at the end of the day do bugger all and follow the money! One assumes that our Asset of Community Value application hit the expected blank as the AEPG wrecking crew continue to do the EEAS/AEPG/PCC and the city proud as they destroy our community asset in their attempt to get the land sold to some mugs who thing that planning will be a nod through: Decommissioning work starts on Peterborough Showground grandstand - as councillor labels work as 'cultural vandalism'Seats from grandstand will be donated to an as yet unnamed local community group (When asked which group the seats have been donated to, the AEPG spokesperson said that it would be announced in the future -  ) Interesting terminology: 'Decommissioning is stopping provision of a service or a significant part of a service in order to bring about an improvement to existing service provision. - only in AEPG world!  - image source, Peterborough Today.Work has begun to ‘decommission’ the grandstand at the Peterborough Showground – with one city councillor describing the work as ‘cultural vandalism.’ Plans have been revealed for a new housing and leisure complex at the showground, which has signalled the end of events including Peterborough Panthers speedway, and Truckfest taking place at the site. As a result of the end of the activities, developers AEPG have confirmed that work has now begun to ‘decommission’ the stand. In a statement, they said: “Due to the fact that East of England Showground Services Ltd are no longer hosting large-scale outdoor events at the showground, AEPG have taken the opportunity to decommission the grandstand. As such, we are delighted to have donated the seating to a local organisation.” However, the news work was taking place on the stand has not been welcomed by Orton Waterville councillor Julie Stevenson, who has been campaigning to save the Panthers speedway team. Cllr Stevenson described the work as ‘cultural vandalism’ highlighting the views of Panthers fans who have had the ashes of relatives scattered on the track in the past. She also referenced a decision made by the Planning Inspectorate last week which saw plans to re-develop the speedway track in Coventry stopped. She said; “Imagine the huge distress this selfish and callous act of cultural vandalism will bring for the fans and riders of Peterborough Panthers speedway. At a time when another speedway track (Coventry) has been saved by the intervention of the Planning Inspectorate (and action that even the Prime Minister supports!) is there any reason why the land promoter and land owner couldn't wait until the outcome of the application for the Asset of Community Value before staring this work."This action casts a very long, very dark shadow over Peterborough today. "Families who have scattered their loved ones' ashes at the site must be distraught, and my heart goes out to them.”
AEPG said they did not wish to comment on Cllr Stevenson’s comments. -   peterboroughtoday/decommissioning-work-starts-on-peterborough-showground-grandstand-as-councillor-labels-work-as-cultural-vandalism 7/2/24 |
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Post by admin on Feb 8, 2024 11:53:18 GMT
Cllr Stevenson described the work as ‘cultural vandalism’ highlighting the views of Panthers fans who have had the ashes of relatives scattered on the track in the past. She also referenced a decision made by the Planning Inspectorate last week which saw plans to re-develop the speedway track in Coventry stopped. She said; “Imagine the huge distress this selfish and callous act of cultural vandalism will bring for the fans and riders of Peterborough Panthers speedway. At a time when another speedway track (Coventry) has been saved by the intervention of the Planning Inspectorate (and action that even the Prime Minister supports!) is there any reason why the land promoter and land owner couldn't wait until the outcome of the application for the Asset of Community Value before staring this work."This action casts a very long, very dark shadow over Peterborough today. "Families who have scattered their loved ones' ashes at the site must be distraught, and my heart goes out to them.”
AEPG said they did not wish to comment on Cllr Stevenson’s comments. - peterboroughtoday/decommissioning-work-starts-on-peterborough-showground-grandstand-as-councillor-labels-work-as-cultural-vandalism 7/2/24 Cllr Christian Hogg (Liberal Democrats, Fletton and Stanground) added that he hopes “this is a corner turned” between the council and developers as they’ve listened to councillors’ and residents’ concerns and adapted their plans accordingly. peterboroughtoday/dhl-car-depot-approved-at-east-of-england-showground-by-peterborough-council-at-second-hearing 23/1/24 |
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Post by admin on Feb 8, 2024 12:36:59 GMT
Policy LP30: Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities
The council will support the development of new cultural, leisure, tourism and community facilities, especially if: it will help to improve the range, quality, and distinctiveness of facilities that the city and surrounding areas have to offer; it improves access by sustainable transport modes to such facilities; and it will help to promote the image of Peterborough and attract more visitors.
If you've listened to anything from Butterfield then you'll have noticed that this is the narrative that he pushes!
Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities
The loss, via redevelopment, of an existing culture, leisure, tourism or community facility will only be permitted if it is demonstrated that:
k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be
redeveloped for a new community facility; or
l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within
reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature
of the facility and its associated catchment area; or
m. The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or
greater size in a suitable on or off-site location.
Their strategy is quite clear as they continue to action item k as best they can and will no doubt site that Chapman's preferred operation covers item l in their opinion.
AEPG don't feel that item m applies to them!
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Post by admin on May 2, 2024 9:16:42 GMT
Council considering calls to make Peterborough Panthers speedway stadium protected community asset
An outcome is expected ‘in the weeks to come’
An application to designate the East of England Showground stadium as an Asset of Community Value (ACV) will be considered by Peterborough City Council (PCC).
The bid was made by Orton Waterville Parish Council alongside the Peterborough Panthers Speedway Supporters Club in November last year.
Cllr Julie Stevenson (Independent, Orton Waterville) says the groups’ nomination papers have been accepted by the city council.
If it is, the stadium would be given ACV status for five years, which can be considered when determining planning applications, including as a reason for refusing demolition.
ACV status – if granted – opens other possible options.
These include allowing community groups to bid for assets and compulsory purchase by the local council.
Cllr Stevenson says the parish council and speedway supporters “await the outcome of the assessment in the weeks to come”.
Full text at peterboroughtoday/council-considering-calls-to-make-peterborough-panthers-speedway-stadium-protected-community-asset 1/5/24
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