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Post by admin on Jul 10, 2012 15:19:31 GMT
I didn't think the track was as good as it could have been and certainly wouldnt rave about it like some of the Lynn fans. Most of us can count the number of bends on the fingers of one hand but those extra two bends needed at the Norfolk Arena do add to the excitement  |
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Post by Hodgy on Jul 10, 2012 19:38:20 GMT
SWC is excellent entertainment, first 2 meetings were great. Just the way I like my Speedway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 13:49:14 GMT
gonna have a bet on poland tonight 2/1 seems a 1/2 decent price
just got 5/2 with bet365 so i'm even more happy
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Post by admin on Jul 12, 2012 14:26:38 GMT
not before time  the teamsCzech Republic: 1. Lukas Dryml, 2. Ales Dryml, 3. Josef Franc, 4. Matej Kus. Poland: 1. Tomasz Gollob, 2. Piotr Protasiewicz, 3. Maciej Janowski, 4. Krzysztof Buczkowski. Denmark: 1. Nicki Pedersen, 2. Michael Jepsen Jensen, 3. Leon Madsen, 4. Niels-Kristian Iversen. Great Britain: 1. Scott Nicholls, 2. Tai Woffinden, 3. Danny King, 4. Chris Harris. |
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Post by admin on Jul 12, 2012 20:39:31 GMT
Czech Republic = 19
1. Lukas Dryml - 0, 1, 1, 1, 0 = 3
2. Ales Dryml - R, 1, X, 0, 3 = 4
3. Josef Franc - 3, 2, 0, 0, 6^, 0 = 11
4. Matej Kus - 1, 0, 0, 0 = 1
Poland = 38
1. Tomasz Gollob - FX, 0, 3, 6^, 3, 3 = 15
2. Piotr Protasiewicz - 2, 1, 1, 1 = 5
3. Maciej Janowski - 1, 2, 1, 2, 1 = 7
4. Krzysztof Buczkowski - 1, 2, 3, 2, 3 = 11
Denmark = 42
1. Nicki Pedersen - 3, 3, 2, 2, 2 = 12
2. Michael Jepsen Jensen - 3, 3, 2, 3, 2 = 13
3. Leon Madsen - FX, 0, 1, 1, 2 = 4
4. Niels Kristian Iversen - 3, 3, 2, 3, 2 = 13
Great Britain = 30
1. Scott Nicholls - 1, R, 1, 0, 0 = 2
2. Tai Woffinden - 2, 6^, 3, 2, 1 = 14
3. Daniel King - 2, 1, 0, 0 = 3
4. Chris Harris - 2, 2, 2, 1, 3, 1 = 11
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 22:31:06 GMT
Double Emmerdale was great tonight. Looks like I never missed anything from the SWC.
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Post by admin on Jul 13, 2012 6:53:07 GMT
Linus Sundstrom @linussundstromBoring meeting from målilla, boring to book flights too! Ryanair needs to sort their website out..
Neil Middleditch @middlo57rubbish!!!!!really thought we could win tonight, #notahappycamper
Danny King @dannykingracingWhat a terrible meeting for me. Not sure what happened couldnt get bikes going. Think we may have a problem with them. We will keep trying. Never has been and never will be consistently good enough at this level.
Paul Burbidge @paul_BurbidgeTeam GB carried too many passengers. But @woffinden108 really made his mark in Malilla. Dackarna won't let him sit at home on Tuesdays. We always look like that but where is the next generation? Can't see any Nicholls and Harris on the downward slope, King, Kennett, Barker etc never going to be good enough and Woffinden still far too inconsistent but the best we have, which doesn't say much
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Post by admin on Jul 13, 2012 7:10:12 GMT
Double Emmerdale was great tonight. Looks like I never missed anything from the SWC. There's always Saturday:
Jan Stæchmann @staechmanagerLots of rumours flying about at the Monster Energy party last night. Exciting SWC Final in prospect on Saturday. #MonsterEnergySWC
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 13, 2012 8:37:16 GMT
Linus Sundstrom @linussundstromBoring meeting from målilla, boring to book flights too! Ryanair needs to sort their website out..
Neil Middleditch @middlo57rubbish!!!!!really thought we could win tonight, #notahappycamper
Danny King @dannykingracingWhat a terrible meeting for me. Not sure what happened couldnt get bikes going. Think we may have a problem with them. We will keep trying. Never has been and never will be consistently good enough at this level.
Paul Burbidge @paul_BurbidgeTeam GB carried too many passengers. But @woffinden108 really made his mark in Malilla. Dackarna won't let him sit at home on Tuesdays. We always look like that but where is the next generation? Can't see any Nicholls and Harris on the downward slope, King, Kennett, Barker etc never going to be good enough and Woffinden still far too inconsistent but the best we have, which doesn't say much I thought GB were dissappointing, Nicholls was awful and King wasnt a lot better, they finished exactly where I thought they would despite a bright start, interesting that a PL heat leader scored over twice as many points as the above 2. It was good to see Buzz and MJJ going well, will be interesting to see them doing the same at Belle Vue Monday. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 12:18:49 GMT
No-one can be surprised.
Until the BSPA limit foreign riders in the Elite League to something like 4 per team, maybe reducing to 3 in time (which will probably take 10 years or so) and weaken the EL and PL in the process, we will never get stronger as a nation.
This is years of damage coming together at once and we have to face facts that we should be having regular test matches with the likes of the Czech Republic and Russia (rather than Australia) regardless of crowd levels as an investment in British riders for the future.
We have quality kids coming through like Robert Lambert, Nathan Greaves, Max Clegg, Reade - then a bit older guys like Howarth, the Worralls, Birks, Perry, Garrity, Cook, Lawson etc then these riders stagnate every time because British Promoters go for the lesser foreigners as cheap choices - the likes of Sowka, Piszcz, Ksiezak, Jakobsen, Dilger, Sitera, Franchetti et al.
It may be that the EL & PL cannot restrict who can ride here under EU working rules but wasn't a precedent set with in Poland where they restricted GP rider inclusion within their teams for 2012??
Its not all about the training of these kids at the very junior level, as we have that in place although maybe not as widespread like they have in Denmark, Australia and Poland. What we dont have is enough investment in rider coaches, more basic training tracks with the BSPA supporting them financially, and then the gap bridging between the U15 series, and NL/PL progression.
The parallels between the state of speedway and football in this country are scarey at times.
I'd much rather see a weakened top two tier league product in the short term cutting costs in the right areas to re-invest where needed, thus meaning a stronger British base of riders in years to come, feeding Team GB, feeding the SGP circus amd meaning we are not the laughing stock of the speedway world in the future.
If we are all kidding ourselves that it works then last night was a harsh reminder just as the England v Italy game was. Kennett, King, Wright, Bridger, Allen, Stead, Mear would all be far better riders if they had come through the system in Poland, Denmark or Sweden.
We need to realise that British Speedway is failing these guys at the time in their careers when they need it, not the riders failing British Speedway anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 13:45:57 GMT
No-one can be surprised. Until the BSPA limit foreign riders in the Elite League to something like 4 per team, maybe reducing to 3 in time (which will probably take 10 years or so) and weaken the EL and PL in the process, we will never get stronger as a nation. You want to weaken the EL further? Who will pay to come and watch it? This is years of damage coming together at once and we have to face facts that we should be having regular test matches with the likes of the Czech Republic and Russia (rather than Australia) regardless of crowd levels as an investment in British riders for the future. Who wil pay for that? The money fairies? We have quality kids coming through like Robert Lambert, Nathan Greaves, Max Clegg, Reade - then a bit older guys like Howarth, the Worralls, Birks, Perry, Garrity, Cook, Lawson etc then these riders stagnate every time because British Promoters go for the lesser foreigners as cheap choices - the likes of Sowka, Piszcz, Ksiezak, Jakobsen, Dilger, Sitera, Franchetti et al. Maybe the British riders should align their financial expectations to that of the foreigners then? Its not all about the training of these kids at the very junior level, as we have that in place although maybe not as widespread like they have in Denmark, Australia and Poland. What we dont have is enough investment in rider coaches, more basic training tracks with the BSPA supporting them financially, and then the gap bridging between the U15 series, and NL/PL progression. I suppose you think the BSPA sits upon mountains of cash? I don't think they do. Most promoters appear to be losing money, especuially at EL level, so where's the money supposed to come from? I'd much rather see a weakened top two tier league product in the short term cutting costs in the right areas to re-invest where needed, thus meaning a stronger British base of riders in years to come, feeding Team GB, feeding the SGP circus amd meaning we are not the laughing stock of the speedway world in the future. But isn't that exactly what the BSPA have been trying to do for the last xx years and yet clubs are still losing money. To blame everything on the BSPA, no matter how useless they are, is misguided in my opinion. The sport has been in decline for years and only SKY TV has stopped it from virtual extinction. |
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 13, 2012 14:42:14 GMT
No-one can be surprised. Until the BSPA limit foreign riders in the Elite League to something like 4 per team, maybe reducing to 3 in time (which will probably take 10 years or so) and weaken the EL and PL in the process, we will never get stronger as a nation. This is years of damage coming together at once and we have to face facts that we should be having regular test matches with the likes of the Czech Republic and Russia (rather than Australia) regardless of crowd levels as an investment in British riders for the future. We have quality kids coming through like Robert Lambert, Nathan Greaves, Max Clegg, Reade - then a bit older guys like Howarth, the Worralls, Birks, Perry, Garrity, Cook, Lawson etc then these riders stagnate every time because British Promoters go for the lesser foreigners as cheap choices - the likes of Sowka, Piszcz, Ksiezak, Jakobsen, Dilger, Sitera, Franchetti et al. It may be that the EL & PL cannot restrict who can ride here under EU working rules but wasn't a precedent set with in Poland where they restricted GP rider inclusion within their teams for 2012?? Its not all about the training of these kids at the very junior level, as we have that in place although maybe not as widespread like they have in Denmark, Australia and Poland. What we dont have is enough investment in rider coaches, more basic training tracks with the BSPA supporting them financially, and then the gap bridging between the U15 series, and NL/PL progression. The parallels between the state of speedway and football in this country are scarey at times. I'd much rather see a weakened top two tier league product in the short term cutting costs in the right areas to re-invest where needed, thus meaning a stronger British base of riders in years to come, feeding Team GB, feeding the SGP circus amd meaning we are not the laughing stock of the speedway world in the future. If we are all kidding ourselves that it works then last night was a harsh reminder just as the England v Italy game was. Kennett, King, Wright, Bridger, Allen, Stead, Mear would all be far better riders if they had come through the system in Poland, Denmark or Sweden. We need to realise that British Speedway is failing these guys at the time in their careers when they need it, not the riders failing British Speedway anymore. Not so sure they are cheap choices, when you factor in flights, accomodation, vans and mechanics, some want a weekly allowance and then you have to ensure they have good equipment, I think the biggest factor regarding foreign riders is that you can get a rider who will score you some good points because he starts on a bargain starting average. Sundstrom started with the Panthers on 6.18 because of the 60% conversion from the PL, this conversion seriously affects British riders, compare that with MJJ who started on a 5.00 and then we have the Poole facility which starts all their bargains on 4.00. Its that loophole that needs closing, the sooner the better. |
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Post by admin on Jul 14, 2012 7:03:59 GMT
 Sweden 5/2 best price1. Andreas Jonsson 2. Fredrik Lindgren 3. Peter Ljung 4. Tomas H Jonasson ![]() l.thumbs.canstockphoto.com/canstock3899775.jpg [/img] Russia 18/1 best price1. Emil Sayfutdinov 2. Grigory Laguta 3. Artem Laguta 4. Roman Povazhny  Australia 6/4 best price1. Jason Crump 2. Darcy Ward 3. Davey Watt 4. Chris Holder  Denmark 9/4 best price1. Nicki Pedersen 2. Niels K Iversen 3. Michael J Jensen 4. Mikkel B Jensen And as usual, after the hype and hot air at Saddlebow Road and amateurish performance in the race off, Neil Middloditch and his men are directing traffic in the car park:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 7:46:01 GMT
don't fancy the aussies watt ain't good enough at this level ,ward's a huge risk/gamble, i'm confident opposing riders will push him to the limit could end in tears
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Post by admin on Jul 14, 2012 7:54:32 GMT
don't fancy the aussies watt ain't good enough at this level ,ward's a huge risk/gamble, i'm confident opposing riders will push him to the limit could end in tears Just had a letter from bet365 telling me that I've not claimed my £5 free bonus. Well I will now and it's going on the Aussies. Sweden are the threat but they have two Davy Watts and it depends which THJ and Ljung turn up  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 7:57:51 GMT
don't fancy the aussies watt ain't good enough at this level ,ward's a huge risk/gamble, i'm confident opposing riders will push him to the limit could end in tears Just had a letter from bet365 telling me that I've not claimed my £5 free bonus. Well I will now and it's going on the Aussies. Sweden are the threat but they have two Davy Watts and it depends which THJ and Ljung turn up stick it on the mad russkie to be top pts scorer |
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Post by admin on Jul 14, 2012 8:14:03 GMT
Just had a letter from bet365 telling me that I've not claimed my £5 free bonus. Well I will now and it's going on the Aussies. Sweden are the threat but they have two Davy Watts and it depends which THJ and Ljung turn up stick it on the mad russkie to be top pts scorer bet365 only have outright winner betting that I can see? I could put it on 14/1 Panthers who are equal fourth favourites with our 6 fingered cousins in the two horse EL title race. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2012 8:37:55 GMT
i had £25 e-way on panthers the other week at 25s
only because i think there capable of beating swindon over 2 legs with a flying bjerre
as they say tho a fool and his money soon part
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Post by admin on Jul 14, 2012 9:18:35 GMT
i had £25 e-way on panthers the other week at 25s only because i think there capable of beating swindon over 2 legs with a flying bjerre as they say tho a fool and his money soon part I wouldn't disagree with that but still think Poole will finish top and pick fourth which brings us back to champs point! point 2 so who's gonna take 4th place every other team is poor ,not 1 has looked like cementing 4th place so somebodys got to finish there Who cares, it's a pointless waste of time finishing 4th. |
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Post by admin on Jul 14, 2012 19:42:20 GMT
Sweden = 24
1. Andreas Jonsson - 3, 6^, 0, 0, 2 = 11
2. Fredrik Lindgren - 1, 1, 2, 3, 2, 0 = 9
3. Peter Ljung - 0, 0, 0, 1 = 1
4. Thomas H. Jonasson - 0, 0, 3, 0, FX = 3
Russia = 30
1. Emil Sayfutdinov - 1, 1, 3, 3, 6^, 3 = 17
2. Grigorij Laguta - 2, 1, 0, 2, 0, 3 = 8
3. Artem Laguta - 0, 0, 1, 2, 2 = 5
4. Roman Povazhny - 0, F, 0 = 0
Australia = 36
1. Jason Crump - 3, 3, 2, 2, 0 = 10
2. Darcy Ward - 2, 2, 2, 1 = 7
3. Davey Watt - 1, 1, 0, 1, 0 = 3 - crap!
4. Chris Holder - 3, 2, 3, 1, 6^, 1 = 16
Denmark = 39 - Winners
1. Nicki Pedersen - 3, 3, 1, 1, 1 = 9
2. Niels-Kristian Iversen - 2, 2, 3, 3, 1 = 11
3. Michael Jepsen Jensen - 2, 3, 1, 3, 2 = 11
4. Mikkel B. Jensen - 1, 2, 1, 2, 2 = 8
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 15, 2012 10:39:57 GMT
The two races from the end when Pedersen shut off to allow Crump thro and then the utter farce when two shut off together turned this meeting into a complete joke and must have caused acute embarassment all round, hopefully it could spell the end of the Joker or joke ruling.
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Post by admin on Jul 16, 2012 7:31:26 GMT
3. Davey Watt - 1, 1, 0, 1, 0 = 3 - crap! David Watt @davidwatt24 (16/7/12) Phone working again !!! Landed in luton and my lift hasn't arrived so in a taxi to heathrow !! Need to score some big points tonight !! Needed a taxi on Saturday evening tbh |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 7:56:11 GMT
3. Davey Watt - 1, 1, 0, 1, 0 = 3 - crap! David Watt @davidwatt24 (16/7/12) Phone working again !!! Landed in luton and my lift hasn't arrived so in a taxi to heathrow !! Need to score some big points tonight !! Needed a taxi on Saturday evening tbh I presumed he thought his points on Saturday counted towards his EL average. |
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Post by Hodgy on Jul 16, 2012 8:11:11 GMT
David Watt @davidwatt24 (16/7/12) Phone working again !!! Landed in luton and my lift hasn't arrived so in a taxi to heathrow !! Need to score some big points tonight !! Needed a taxi on Saturday evening tbh I presumed he thought his points on Saturday counted towards his EL average. Don't like average manipulation, but in what other sport or even job do you know where the better you perform the more chance you have of putting yourself out of work. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 10:00:14 GMT
I presumed he thought his points on Saturday counted towards his EL average. Don't like average manipulation, but in what other sport or even job do you know where the better you perform the more chance you have of putting yourself out of work. Hmm. Some would say banking is a kind of sport these days? |
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