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Post by rodders on Apr 8, 2022 18:37:32 GMT
Here in Cambridge just about everywhere has run out of Petrol and diesel , we are told that this is mainly due to the actions of another protest group of vandals , hooligans and anarchists "Stop Oil"
Unless this situation improves, it will prevent me going to my cousins funeral in Leatherhead, and also prevent me seeing other relatives for which will probably have been for the last time.
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Post by admin on Apr 8, 2022 19:21:56 GMT
Here in Cambridge just about everywhere has run out of Petrol and diesel , we are told that this is mainly due to the actions of another protest group of vandals , hooligans and anarchists "Stop Oil" Unless this situation improves, it will prevent me going to my cousins funeral in Leatherhead, and also prevent me seeing other relatives for which will probably have been for the last time. Seems a bit strange.Just done a news search and can't see any such issues mentioned. Surely you can get fuel outside Cambridge on your way? That's assuming of course that you've not run it to the red. If that's the case, can't you get someone to bring you a gallon? |
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Post by bratters on Apr 8, 2022 19:51:38 GMT
I had to queue up at Sainsbury’s today for about 15 minutes to fill up, but I think that was more down to the price per litre being 7p+ less than anywhere else locally. It was pretty chaotic.
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Post by davet on Apr 8, 2022 19:52:03 GMT
Trouble is it's not just Cambridge Riggers. Petrol and diesel is in short supply here in Huntingdon, with forecourts closed and coned off, and I gather other parts of the country are similarly affected. I wouldn't want to set off on a journey without a full tank, unless I knew there would be fuel available on the journey.
Perhaps it's the government adding leverage to persuade people to go electric, heaven forbid!
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Post by admin on Apr 8, 2022 20:31:15 GMT
Trouble is it's not just Cambridge Riggers. Petrol and diesel is in short supply here in Huntingdon, with forecourts closed and coned off, and I gather other parts of the country are similarly affected. I wouldn't want to set off on a journey without a full tank, unless I knew there would be fuel available on the journey. Perhaps it's the government adding leverage to persuade people to go electric, heaven forbid! Strange. I haven't been far today but all petrol stations were open and seemingly without issues (that's before I read bratters' post). I wouldn't think twice of setting off somewhere. I don't get electric at all. I don't know what they've got going for them and I bet they're as toxic and expensive over their lifetime as a new petrol vehicle. The brainwashed Eco nutters want everyone living in a cave and not travelling anywhere. |
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Post by davet on Apr 8, 2022 21:05:31 GMT
Don't get me started on electric cars! seems to me that cars which run on fossil fuel are bad for the environment, but if you burn fossil fuel to generate electricity, and use that to power cars, that's somehow all right?
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Post by rodders on Apr 8, 2022 21:48:25 GMT
Don't get me started on electric cars! seems to me that cars which run on fossil fuel are bad for the environment, but if you burn fossil fuel to generate electricity, and use that to power cars, that's somehow all right? I certainly will not contemplate starting on my journey without a full tank. Interestingly a radio programme the other day highlighted a growing number of people who bitterly regret switching to electric. Opinion also from the trade seemed to be that at the moment the technology is not fit for purpose |
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Post by admin on Apr 9, 2022 10:11:04 GMT
Don't get me started on electric cars! seems to me that cars which run on fossil fuel are bad for the environment, but if you burn fossil fuel to generate electricity, and use that to power cars, that's somehow all right? Basics of Green Policy is that it's great as long as someone else producing your clean products is taking the hit to offset the pollution and/or other incompatible processes that enable you to virtue signal about your environmental/climate credentials. The starting point for electric is battery and I'm still unclear on who produces these, where the materials come from and who supplies them, how long the batteries last (how much do they cost to replace) and who disposes of the old ones and how? I get leaflets from the council telling me to not even put a duracell in the rubbish. Think that they are talking about renewables and small nuclear for electricity generation long term so steering clear of fossil fuels to appease the Eco nutter lobbyists etc. Shale gas is the elephant in the room although as someone said on Talksport the other day, why don't we use "clean coal" - always something that mystifies me. I think that will still have massive reserves of coal and it can't be beyond the wit of man to scientifically burn that cleanly these days? Rodders is right, the technology, materials and infrastructure for the mental mad dash to electric cars (which is a disastrous policy for Joe Public) just doesn't exist. |
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Post by admin on Apr 9, 2022 10:39:34 GMT
Trouble is it's not just Cambridge Riggers. Petrol and diesel is in short supply here in Huntingdon, with forecourts closed and coned off, and I gather other parts of the country are similarly affected. I wouldn't want to set off on a journey without a full tank, unless I knew there would be fuel available on the journey. Just read a tweet that does suggest general issues? (Sat Apr 9): "My friend has just phoned to say that fuel is limited to £30 again.. because of the glue addicts causing mayhem outside the refineries"  |
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Post by rodders on Apr 12, 2022 14:19:06 GMT
Petrol available yesterday but no diesel, so unable to go to funeral. However able to watch funeral via video link.
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Post by Hodgy on Apr 12, 2022 15:32:06 GMT
BP garage other side of Baston, no problem, no queue with the £50 max limit. Although Market Deeping’s only station was out of diesel. Think the glue mob have taken too many fumes. They continue to embarrass themselves as only viewing aspects of their own agenda. Look at the big pictures you absolute planks.
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Post by rodders on Apr 13, 2022 14:36:54 GMT
Got some diesel today!! Interestingly enough diesel was all the garage had.
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Post by admin on Sept 26, 2022 10:42:16 GMT
Don't get me started on electric cars! seems to me that cars which run on fossil fuel are bad for the environment, but if you burn fossil fuel to generate electricity, and use that to power cars, that's somehow all right? As the climate scam and net zero nonsense starts to unravel as it destroys the economy and starts to significantly affect the little people (ie the general public) in terms of cost and mobility etc, it seems that electric vehicles (which can't be any less toxic to build & maintain (more so I would say)) than an efficient hybrid) are now at virtual charging parity cost with petrol. What a great idea this was without the infrastructure and/or resources - who could have seen this coming  Charging some electric cars ‘nearing cost of petrol’ due to energy crisis, RAC warns (independent.co.uk/electric-cars-energy-crisis-rac 26/09/22 - behind paywall) |
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Post by rodders on Sept 26, 2022 10:59:01 GMT
Don't get me started on electric cars! seems to me that cars which run on fossil fuel are bad for the environment, but if you burn fossil fuel to generate electricity, and use that to power cars, that's somehow all right? As the climate scam and net zero nonsense starts to unravel as it destroys the economy and starts to significantly affect the little people (ie the general public) in terms of cost and mobility etc, it seems that electric vehicles (which can't be any less toxic to build & maintain (more so I would say)) than an efficient hybrid) are now at virtual charging parity cost with petrol. What a great idea this was without the infrastructure and/or resources - who could have seen this coming Charging some electric cars ‘nearing cost of petrol’ due to energy crisis, RAC warns (independent.co.uk/electric-cars-energy-crisis-rac 26/09/22 - behind paywall) Have to say I would not at this moment contemplate an electric car. Saw an article the other day about batteries ibn such car degrading to the extent that some only had a range of 50 miles. Many in the industry seem to be saying that at the moment the technology is not at the level to make them a viable option. |
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Post by Hodgy on Sept 26, 2022 11:50:33 GMT
Don't get me started on electric cars! seems to me that cars which run on fossil fuel are bad for the environment, but if you burn fossil fuel to generate electricity, and use that to power cars, that's somehow all right? As the climate scam and net zero nonsense starts to unravel as it destroys the economy and starts to significantly affect the little people (ie the general public) in terms of cost and mobility etc, it seems that electric vehicles (which can't be any less toxic to build & maintain (more so I would say)) than an efficient hybrid) are now at virtual charging parity cost with petrol. What a great idea this was without the infrastructure and/or resources - who could have seen this coming Charging some electric cars ‘nearing cost of petrol’ due to energy crisis, RAC warns (independent.co.uk/electric-cars-energy-crisis-rac 26/09/22 - behind paywall) I heard that this morning too. Public charging prices now up by 47%, which equates to, as you say the same as regular fuel. Also, with the increase in energy prices how does leaving your car plugged in overnight effect your electric bill? |
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Post by admin on Sept 26, 2022 12:03:54 GMT
As the climate scam and net zero nonsense starts to unravel as it destroys the economy and starts to significantly affect the little people (ie the general public) in terms of cost and mobility etc, it seems that electric vehicles (which can't be any less toxic to build & maintain (more so I would say)) than an efficient hybrid) are now at virtual charging parity cost with petrol. What a great idea this was without the infrastructure and/or resources - who could have seen this coming Charging some electric cars ‘nearing cost of petrol’ due to energy crisis, RAC warns (independent.co.uk/electric-cars-energy-crisis-rac 26/09/22 - behind paywall) Have to say I would not at this moment contemplate an electric car. Saw an article the other day about batteries in such cars degrading to the extent that some only had a range of 50 miles. Many in the industry seem to be saying that at the moment the technology is not at the level to make them a viable option. I've seen a similar article (may have been in Which or something) saying that they don't degrade significantly or need frequent (3/5 years or so?) replacement. Surely cost of the vehicles, lack of infrastructure, time charging v petrol/diesel fill & mileage constraints must be significant considerations? What I don't get is if the estimated range is allegedly 300 miles or so with everything in perfect working order in the summer or in those type of favourable conditions, what is the range after a couple of years use and in a cold winter with heater, headlights, wipers, media systems etc sapping the power as well as the engine?
From: latimes/california/story/2022-09-24/california-electric-vehicles-daytime-charging-power-grid-studyTo successfully ramp up Californians’ reliance on electric vehicles over the next decade without overtaxing the state’s power grid, more drivers will need to charge their cars during the day, a Stanford study has found. The state needs to drastically increase and improve public and workplace charging infrastructure that supports daytime charging, which can better utilize solar energy, according to the study, published this week in the scientific journal Nature Energy. Increased charging availability will also make electric vehicle ownership more accessible, the study found. “If we focus a lot of attention on building out a big public charging network wherever people are during the day — at work, in public places … that will be a big win for the grid,” said Siobhan Powell, the lead researcher on the study. The study, part of Stanford’s Bits & Watts Initiative, which integrates researchers with leaders of the energy industry, used modeling to forecast EV charging demands in 2035 across 11 western states, including California. Projecting that both EV use and renewable energy reliance will increase over the next 13 years, the team found that improvements in public charging infrastructure — reducing dependence on nighttime power-ups — could ensure that plug-in vehicles have the least effect on the power grid. EV owners are likely to be in high income brackets and to charge their batteries at home overnight — often taking advantage of incentives offered by power companies to do so. If those charging habits persist as EV use greatly expands, peak electricity demand could be increased by up to 25%, the researchers found. Though a shift to more daytime charging is not expected to stem the increase in demand, it would move the peak to when California has historically had excess capacity on the grid, thanks to solar power. This shift could also help the West prepare for high stress on its electricity system during heat waves, which continue to push the grid to its limits.By 2035, the year California has committed to ending the sale of new fossil-fuel-burning vehicles, increased capacity will make daytime solar energy cheaper, according to Ram Rajagopal, co-author of the study and an associate professor of civil and environmental engineering and electrical engineering at Stanford. “Workplace charging, in particular, happens to line up really well with solar generation,” added Powell. Scaling up stations that support daytime charging would “improve the impacts of EV charging, support equitable widespread adoption, reduce emissions, support renewable integration and smooth the transition to a decarbonized future,” the study found. “Building out a lot of public daytime charging will be beneficial for the grid but also can help bring charging access to more people,” Powell said. She admits that the state needs “millions more” charging stations to reach its goal of 5 million zero-emission vehicles on the road by 2030 — almost five times the current amount. But she’s hopeful that the research can help shape policy about how and where the stations are implemented. The findings do not mean people should stop charging EVs at home and overnight if that works best for them, Powell said, because the priority should be encouraging the use of lower- or zero-emission vehicles. But she would like to see the study influence policymakers or companies that build charging stations. That way, “it can be the convenient choice for people to charge at that time when it’s better for the grid,” Powell said. Rajagopal, who is director of the Stanford Sustainable Systems Labs, said it could help to have people start to get into the habit of charging during the day. “If we get people used to the right behavior now, then when that transition completes, we will already be doing the right thing,” he said. |
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Post by admin on Oct 3, 2022 21:08:13 GMT
Call for better public transport in Peterborough as electric car drivers will have to pay to charge and park vehicles for first timeCurrently drivers of electric cars do not have to pay for parking or charging at city council car run parks. "Electric cars will still be far more efficient and cost effective for drivers” However, following the announcement, cllr Nicola Day, leader of the Green Party in the city, said more needed to be done to make environmentally friendly transport a better option in Peterborough. Cllr Day said: “Electric cars will still be far more efficient and cost effective for drivers. However, the council needs to invest in the future network and with the council being in a difficult financial position it is hoped that investment will come via these charges. The Greens would like to see cheaper EV parking charges compared to petrol and diesel cars to help incentivise the take up of electric vehicles. "What we would also like to see is better public transport that is affordable for all. "Whilst EV will help with the reduction of carbon, replacing all cars with EV is not the answer in terms of tackling the climate crisis.
We must look to reducing the number of individual vehicles people own and get people using public transport.”- And there it is folks, they want you living in a cave and going to the shops by bus once a week. All to justify their pointless quest for unachievable climate targets that make no difference in the big world picture!
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