Carl Oakes

[rodders]

Anybody know what happened to him or where he is now? I don't know the story of his demise but always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, on the face of it he was betrayed by what should have been his friends. The truth of course may be entirely different

[Hodgy]

Oct 27, 2022 15:15:53 GMT rodders said:

Anybody know what happened to him or where he is now? I don't know the story of his demise but always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, on the face of it he was betrayed by what should have been his friends. The truth of course may be entirely different

It’s a sorry from me. I’ve never heard of him. Interested to hear more.

[rodders]

Oct 27, 2022 16:06:13 GMT Hodgy said:

Oct 27, 2022 15:15:53 GMT rodders said:

Anybody know what happened to him or where he is now? I don't know the story of his demise but always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, on the face of it he was betrayed by what should have been his friends. The truth of course may be entirely different

It’s a sorry from me. I’ve never heard of him. Interested to hear more.

Chairman of Supporters Club ousted in Coup D'etat. Reasons unknown.

[admin]

Oct 27, 2022 15:15:53 GMT rodders said:

Anybody know what happened to him or where he is now? I don't know the story of his demise but always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, on the face of it he was betrayed by what should have been his friends. The truth of course may be entirely different

Doesn't ring any bells with me at all. Sounds a bit more memorable and personal to your good self. A google search brought up some info: speedwayplus/CarlOakes

Like this bit, especially as going to 7 teams in 2023 is seen an an improvement

What does the future hold for speedway? - I have to say that a 9 team Elite league is not working.

Maybe the GP riders should ride purely GPs and open meetings and let Sky pay them the appropriate fees. Leave the Elite league to the dedicated riders and have minimum of 12 teams. Whilst Sky Sports has given a wider view of the sport I am not sure it has all been for the good of the sport in general. Just a shame most of the GB clubs don't own the stadiums they use as then we could have one regular race night. However I still prefer the old system of meetings every night of the week. Promoters need to have a serious rethink or GB speedway will be going backwards.

Dream Team : Carl Oakes - speedwayplus/carl_oakes 3/7/2004

Ivan Mauger - Simply magic. So very professional. Speedways king of all time.
Peter Collins - If only he could have let the clutch out quicker he would have been a multi world champion. Great crowd pleaser.
Ray Morton - Okay, maybe not a superstar but enjoyed his speedway and was always up for a laugh. Great character.
Ryan Sullivan - Top class rider who deserves a little more luck.
Hans Nielsen - Like Mauger, dedicated and focused. Professional and likeable.
John Cook - Showman supreme, top quality rider who enjoyed his speedway.
Craig Hodgson - Had the potential but lacked the final punch to become a top class rider. Great character even if his temper was a little hot at times.

Team Manager
James Easter - Hated by many, appreciated by few. But he was dedicated and loved the sport.

[admin]

Oct 27, 2022 16:11:39 GMT rodders said:

Oct 27, 2022 16:06:13 GMT Hodgy said:

It’s a sorry from me. I’ve never heard of him. Interested to hear more.

Chairman of Supporters Club ousted in Coup D'etat. Reasons unknown.

Sounds a bit like Richard Greer? I don't think that was a coup in the same way but he has disappeared from the promotion/PSSC scene without an explanation in the public domain that I'm aware of?

[rodders]

Oct 27, 2022 16:21:03 GMT admin said:

Oct 27, 2022 16:11:39 GMT rodders said:

Chairman of Supporters Club ousted in Coup D'etat. Reasons unknown.

Sounds a bit like Richard Greer? I don't think that was a coup in the same way but he has disappeared from the promotion/PSSC scene without an explanation in the public domain that I'm aware of?

More to it than Greer situation I am convinced. Suspect there are many that would prefer it to all go away. Something went on that many ( perhaps rightly) would rather not it not be in Public Domain.

[admin]

Oct 27, 2022 16:32:07 GMT rodders said:

Oct 27, 2022 16:21:03 GMT admin said:

Sounds a bit like Richard Greer? I don't think that was a coup in the same way but he has disappeared from the promotion/PSSC scene without an explanation in the public domain that I'm aware of?

More to it than Greer situation I am convinced. Suspect there are many that would prefer it to all go away. Something went on that many ( perhaps rightly) would rather not it not be in Public Domain.

Sounds a bit sinister Rodders. I suspect that it was no more than a falling out over business issues? It happens but then in true speedway fashion it's badly communicated or not communicated at all.

[Hodgy]

Oct 27, 2022 16:15:30 GMT admin said:

Oct 27, 2022 15:15:53 GMT rodders said:

Anybody know what happened to him or where he is now? I don't know the story of his demise but always leaves a bad taste in my mouth, on the face of it he was betrayed by what should have been his friends. The truth of course may be entirely different

Doesn't ring any bells with me at all. Sounds a bit more memorable and personal to your good self. A google search brought up some info: speedwayplus/CarlOakes

Like this bit, especially as going to 7 teams in 2023 is seen an an improvement

What does the future hold for speedway? - I have to say that a 9 team Elite league is not working.

Maybe the GP riders should ride purely GPs and open meetings and let Sky pay them the appropriate fees. Leave the Elite league to the dedicated riders and have minimum of 12 teams. Whilst Sky Sports has given a wider view of the sport I am not sure it has all been for the good of the sport in general. Just a shame most of the GB clubs don't own the stadiums they use as then we could have one regular race night. However I still prefer the old system of meetings every night of the week. Promoters need to have a serious rethink or GB speedway will be going backwards.

Dream Team : Carl Oakes - speedwayplus/carl_oakes 3/7/2004

Ivan Mauger - Simply magic. So very professional. Speedways king of all time.
Peter Collins - If only he could have let the clutch out quicker he would have been a multi world champion. Great crowd pleaser.
Ray Morton - Okay, maybe not a superstar but enjoyed his speedway and was always up for a laugh. Great character.
Ryan Sullivan - Top class rider who deserves a little more luck.
Hans Nielsen - Like Mauger, dedicated and focused. Professional and likeable.
John Cook - Showman supreme, top quality rider who enjoyed his speedway.
Craig Hodgson - Had the potential but lacked the final punch to become a top class rider. Great character even if his temper was a little hot at times.

Team Manager
James Easter - Hated by many, appreciated by few. But he was dedicated and loved the sport.

Still don’t know who he is. Rodders, you do like to add fancy words in many of your posts, to which I do understand. I’d prefer it if you just wrote it in basic English.

Mauger - My hero growing up.
PC - Great rider but always had a problem relating, and still does. His new book may explain much more.
Ray Morton - Yes great character but no World beater.
Sullivan - Loved him at Peterborough but became too self centred. Forgot where he came from.
Hans Nielsen - Still to me the best rider ever. If the GP,’s were introduced earlier he would have been at least 10 times WC minimum.
Cook - Great entertainment but too many distractions.
Craig Hodgson - Had potential but the the detailed commitment. I really liked him as a Panther. Very sad ending.

Easter, with Oakes - Saved us from the Hawkins disaster. Made us a team challenging for success from mid-table normality.