East of England Showground development.

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Concerns have been voiced a multi-million pound leisure and housing development planned for the East of England Showground will add to traffic misery already suffered by nearby residents.

The fear has been voiced at the start of a three week consultation launched (the consultation closes on December 14) by Showground operator AEPG ahead of its submission early next year of outline plans for a £50 million leisure village and 1,500 homes on the 165 acre site.

More details of its proposals, which were first revealed late last year, include the construction of a golf driving range, a health and fitness centre, hotel, adventure golf, sports pitches, family entertainment centre, office space, dining and coffee shops, an enhanced Arena plus a school and residential care facilities for the elderly.

But Councillor Julie Stevenson, one of the area’s representatives on Peterborough City Council, warns that roads are already under intense pressure from the existing amount of traffic and could not take any more.

Now she is urging residents to make sure they make their views known during the consultation period that ends on December 14.

Independent Councillor Julie Stevenson said: “As anyone who lives in the area will tell you, the transport infrastructure that surrounds the site is already broken, with a build-up of traffic along Oundle Road whenever there is a major event.

“The entrances into both estates are already under huge pressure all day every day, and the roads within them are narrow with inadequate parking.

“These issues must be addressed to ensure effective traffic flows and safe streets for pedestrians.

She added: “I understand the developers wish to encourage more people to cycle.

“While laudable, this is unrealistic and many residents will still need to use their cars for some decades to come, hence they must get the transport infrastructure right. from a former Green, but common sense prevails b0252

“I understand that a school will feature in the plans and this is absolutely essential, but so are doctors and dentists.

“I fear this could prove to be another new-build ‘dormitory town’.

“However, if the developer takes on board our residents’ comments, I feel they have a real chance of creating a highly desirable place to live.

“Whether that will be a place where existing residents wish to be remains to be seen.

“How AEPG and the council respond to residents very real concerns will determine the impact of these plans on two communities that are already well-embedded in Orton.

“I will be encouraging as many residents as possible to take part in this consultation.”

Anyone who would like to comment on AEPG’s proposals should visit its website here.

A new Facebook page has been set up (search for AEPG), and in addition a ‘drop-in day’ will be held on November 30 from 8am to 8pm, at APEG’s Marketing Suite at the East of England Showground.

A drop-in day will also be held on December 7 at ARU, University House, Bishop’s Road, Peterborough.

Comments can be submitted until the consultation closes on December 14, either via the website or email [e-mail]

peterboroughtoday/news/people/greater-traffic-congestion-fears-are-sparked-by-multi-million-pound-plan-to-transform-east-of-england-showground 23/11/22

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Traffic worries put residents on collision course with East of England Showground developer - Public consultation over leisure and homes venture ends on December 14

Residents are calling for changes to multi-million pound plans for a leisure village and homes on the East of England Showground.

The demands from residents in the Ortons have been made as the Showground operator Asset Earning Power Group conducts a three week public consultation to gauge local reaction to its proposals for the 165 acre site.

Central features of the proposals are a £50 million leisure village are a golf driving range, a health and fitness centre, hotel, adventure golf, sports pitches, family entertainment centre plus office space, dining and coffee shops and enhanced Arena plus a new school and residential care facilities for the elderly.

It is also envisaged to build about 1,500 homes.

Following the public consultation, AEPG intends to submit a planning application to Peterborough City Council.

But residents say a major concern is the lack of exits and entrances to the new development and that it will just push extra traffic on to already busy roads.

Christine Reed, secretary of the Orton Southgate Residents’ Association, said: “They expect the development to generate 3,000 extra vehicles but they are not planning to put in any extra roads.

"The only exits and entrances will be at Orton Southgate – and that will require a token to be used for access to the leisure village – and at Orton Northgate.

"Yet we already experience bottlenecks at both ends of the area every day with traffic caused by people going to work and school.

"We would like AEPG to factor in more entrances and exits.”

Other worries include the provision of a school and medical facilities.

Christine added: “We also have concerns about how this development will be funded.

"The fear is that we’ll end up with houses and no leisure village but the development is being promoted as one that will bring prosperity to Peterborough.”

Ashley Butterfield, chief executive of AEPG, has previously said: “This development represents what we hope will be regarded as a new Gateway to Peterborough, but it is important to us that the community shapes its direction.”

Anyone who would like to comment on the proposals should visit AEPG’s website

peterboroughtoday/news/people/traffic-worries-put-residents-on-collision-course-with-east-of-england-showground-developer 5/12/22

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Developers of a scheme which is set to bring 1,500 houses and a string of leisure facilities to the East of England Showground in Peterborough have moved to calm fears that traffic could cause issues in the area.

AEPG Developments have said the £50 million plans for the Showground are ‘game changing’ for Peterborough, as they move ahead with their proposals.

But after the plans were revealed, residents spoke of their concerns about the level of traffic that could be brought to the area.

Christine Reed, secretary of the Orton Southgate Residents’ Association, said: “They expect the development to generate 3,000 extra vehicles but they are not planning to put in any extra roads.

"The only exits and entrances will be at Orton Southgate – and that will require a token to be used for access to the leisure village – and at Orton Northgate. Yet we already experience bottlenecks at both ends of the area every day with traffic caused by people going to work and school.”

However, in a letter to The Peterborough Telegraph, Ashley Butterfield CEO of AEPG Developments said the scheme would not bring traffic chaos. He said: “Since 2019, the effects of COVID on working patterns have led to a reduction in traffic.

“Traffic in 2022 was observed to be lower and modelling for the future development shows that the site access can accommodate all of the proposed development in the peak periods.

"As part of the plan, improvements will be considered at the site access roundabout with Oundle Road to accommodate vehicular movement and improvements for pedestrians and cyclists. These will complement existing provision in/around the junction and allow safe access for all.”

Mr Butterfield said that as the Showground would be losing large scale events – such as Truckfest and Firework Fantasia – weekend traffic would also be substantially reduced.

Along with homes, the site would include a school and leisure facilities, including a golf driving range, a health and fitness centre, hotel, adventure golf, sports pitches, family entertainment centre plus office space and dining and coffee shops – but among the 300 responses to AEPG’ consultation, residents also raised concerns over doctors and dentists.

Mr Butterfield said: “Some of you have also asked about extra provision for doctors and dentists. We recognise that a community of 1,500 homes will bring certain requirements, and we will consult with the relevant authorities.”

Residents can still have their say on the plans, which are expected to bring 500 jobs to the city.

Mr Butterfield said: “This is a game-changing development for Peterborough, and we believe it could be one of the most exciting things to happen to the city as well as the new ARU Peterborough Embankment development.

"We want this scheme to be something for everyone, and that includes those who live there already.”

To have your say, visit aepguk.com

ET 16/12/22

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Dec 16, 2022 22:36:51 GMT admin said:

Developers of a scheme which is set to bring 1,500 houses and a string of leisure facilities to the East of England Showground in Peterborough have moved to calm fears that traffic could cause issues in the area.

AEPG Developments have said the £50 million plans for the Showground are ‘game changing’ for Peterborough, as they move ahead with their proposals.

But after the plans were revealed, residents spoke of their concerns about the level of traffic that could be brought to the area.

Christine Reed, secretary of the Orton Southgate Residents’ Association, said: “They expect the development to generate 3,000 extra vehicles but they are not planning to put in any extra roads.

"The only exits and entrances will be at Orton Southgate – and that will require a token to be used for access to the leisure village – and at Orton Northgate. Yet we already experience bottlenecks at both ends of the area every day with traffic caused by people going to work and school.”

However, in a letter to The Peterborough Telegraph, Ashley Butterfield CEO of AEPG Developments said the scheme would not bring traffic chaos. He said: “Since 2019, the effects of COVID on working patterns have led to a reduction in traffic.

“Traffic in 2022 was observed to be lower and modelling for the future development shows that the site access can accommodate all of the proposed development in the peak periods.

"As part of the plan, improvements will be considered at the site access roundabout with Oundle Road to accommodate vehicular movement and improvements for pedestrians and cyclists. These will complement existing provision in/around the junction and allow safe access for all.”

Mr Butterfield said that as the Showground would be losing large scale events – such as Truckfest and Firework Fantasia – weekend traffic would also be substantially reduced.

Along with homes, the site would include a school and leisure facilities, including a golf driving range, a health and fitness centre, hotel, adventure golf, sports pitches, family entertainment centre plus office space and dining and coffee shops – but among the 300 responses to AEPG’ consultation, residents also raised concerns over doctors and dentists.

Mr Butterfield said: “Some of you have also asked about extra provision for doctors and dentists. We recognise that a community of 1,500 homes will bring certain requirements, and we will consult with the relevant authorities.”

Residents can still have their say on the plans, which are expected to bring 500 jobs to the city.
utterfield said: “This is a game-changing development for Peterborough, and we believe it could be one of the most exciting things to happen to the city as well as the new ARU Peterborough Embankment development.

"We want this scheme to be something for everyone, and that includes those who live there already.”

To have your say, visit aepguk.com

ET 16/12/22

Although I don't live in Peterborough I am finding it difficult to contain my excitement

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Sounds like a dogs' dinner:

Mr Butterfield said: “This is a game-changing development for Peterborough, and we believe it could be one of the most exciting things to happen to the city as well as the new ARU Peterborough Embankment development. "We want this scheme to be something for everyone, and that includes those who live there already.”


The EoES was something for everyone with one of Peterborough's most successful sporting team in residence. I'm sure that most residents were happy with that, not an increase in population, traffic & strain on infrastructure despite the calming wish lists.

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Dec 16, 2022 22:44:05 GMT rodders said:

Dec 16, 2022 22:36:51 GMT admin said:

Developers of a scheme which is set to bring 1,500 houses and a string of leisure facilities to the East of England Showground in Peterborough have moved to calm fears that traffic could cause issues in the area.

AEPG Developments have said the £50 million plans for the Showground are ‘game changing’ for Peterborough, as they move ahead with their proposals.

But after the plans were revealed, residents spoke of their concerns about the level of traffic that could be brought to the area.

Christine Reed, secretary of the Orton Southgate Residents’ Association, said: “They expect the development to generate 3,000 extra vehicles but they are not planning to put in any extra roads.

"The only exits and entrances will be at Orton Southgate – and that will require a token to be used for access to the leisure village – and at Orton Northgate. Yet we already experience bottlenecks at both ends of the area every day with traffic caused by people going to work and school.”

However, in a letter to The Peterborough Telegraph, Ashley Butterfield CEO of AEPG Developments said the scheme would not bring traffic chaos. He said: “Since 2019, the effects of COVID on working patterns have led to a reduction in traffic.

“Traffic in 2022 was observed to be lower and modelling for the future development shows that the site access can accommodate all of the proposed development in the peak periods.

"As part of the plan, improvements will be considered at the site access roundabout with Oundle Road to accommodate vehicular movement and improvements for pedestrians and cyclists. These will complement existing provision in/around the junction and allow safe access for all.”

Mr Butterfield said that as the Showground would be losing large scale events – such as Truckfest and Firework Fantasia – weekend traffic would also be substantially reduced.

Along with homes, the site would include a school and leisure facilities, including a golf driving range, a health and fitness centre, hotel, adventure golf, sports pitches, family entertainment centre plus office space and dining and coffee shops – but among the 300 responses to AEPG’ consultation, residents also raised concerns over doctors and dentists.

Mr Butterfield said: “Some of you have also asked about extra provision for doctors and dentists. We recognise that a community of 1,500 homes will bring certain requirements, and we will consult with the relevant authorities.”

Residents can still have their say on the plans, which are expected to bring 500 jobs to the city.
utterfield said: “This is a game-changing development for Peterborough, and we believe it could be one of the most exciting things to happen to the city as well as the new ARU Peterborough Embankment development.

"We want this scheme to be something for everyone, and that includes those who live there already.”

To have your say, visit aepguk.com

ET 16/12/22

Although I don't live in Peterborough I am finding it difficult to contain my excitement

Bratters lives on site unless he's moved. I'm sure that they look forward to his communications

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Council begins process to review Peterborough Local Plan: Peterborough’s Local Plan sets out long-term housing and employment plans in the city. (Jan 2023 peterboroughtoday/news/politics/council/council-begins-process-to-review-peterborough-local-plan)

Pages 92 & 78 of the Local Plan pdf www.peterborough.gov.uk/council/planning-and-development/planning-policies/local-development-plan

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The production of a new long-term housing and employment plan in Peterborough has been endorsed by the city council. Members of the cabinet voted this week to proceed with updating Peterborough’s Local Plan which sets out how the city will grow over the coming decades.  

The current plan, which was adopted in 2019, covers development in Peterborough up until 2036. However, national policy is for this to be updated every five years.

The council has said that reviewing the local plan will bring numerous benefits, including ensuring that Peterborough can demonstrate it has enough land for housing. Planning in a considered way such as this, would help the city to achieve its carbon zero aims (colder, poorer & immobile ) by making sure all new buildings and developments have easy pedestrian and cycle links and are energy efficient.

It could also ensure that employers can find out which land is available for them to occupy, bringing more jobs to the city, and allows new national policies in areas including climate change and biodiversity to be included.

Moreover, it could give more time to plan where new infrastructure - including schools, roads and health facilities - will need to be built. (Traffic worries put residents on collision course with East of England Showground developer)

If Full Council agrees to proceed with a review of the local plan, the process would take approximately three years with several public consultations included.

The updated plan would earmark development in Peterborough up until at least 2041 and would include a housing target for this period.

Cllr Marco Cereste, cabinet member for climate change , planning, housing and transport, said: “Peterborough is a fast-growing city - both in terms of people, jobs and investment - so it is important we continue to plan long-term to attract new jobs, businesses and investment to the city.

“The current local plan has been very successful, with strong take up of the allocated sites within it, which is bringing forward new jobs, homes and supporting infrastructure at a faster rate.

“The new local plan will identify the best places for new development, to meet the changing needs of the city, as well as supporting the £1billion city centre regeneration programme that we are bringing forward. At the same time, it will help us to achieve our carbon zero goals by making sure those who use these developments limit energy consumption as much as possible, by making walking and cycling the default option and creating buildings that require less heating and power. (did you vote for this nonsense?)

“This is an exciting time for Peterborough, and the new local plan will harness the creativity of the new university, while managing the impacts of new growth.

“Updating a local plan is a lengthy process and we would make sure we are open with businesses, investors and residents throughout this period and take into account all feedback before coming up with our final document.”

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AEPG STATEMENT (Thursday February 02, 2023 peterborough-speedway.com/news)

AEPG (Asset Earning Power Groups) is delighted to confirm it will be submitting an Outline Planning application for a significant leisure development, alongside new homes, open space sports pitches, a school and other facilities.

It follows the recent public consultation, for which AEPG would like to express thanks to all those who participated.

In the short term all events between now and July 1 will run as normal, to be followed by the pausing of the arena for events in the short to medium term. As previously confirmed, the Peterborough Panthers speedway team can continue to race on-site through the 2023 season.

In the future when the leisure site - known as Cultura - becomes a regional destination for high-quality entertainment, dining and live entertainment an additional 500 jobs will be created.

The news represents the next step in AEPG’s continued dedication to the regeneration of Peterborough as a sustainable, enjoyable place to live, study and work.

The vision for the site remains one of a connected, holistic environment where families of all generations and cultures can meet to enjoy live music, displays, activities and good food together.

For more information go to www.aepguk.com, email [e-mail], or go to the AEPG Facebook page.

Background notes:

A five-month PPA (Planning Performance Agreement) has seen AEPG working with Peterborough City Council to identify the strongest possible application for the site, with a plan likely to be submitted in the first quarter of 2023. A three-week public consultation was held last month.

Last year AEPG announced it had entered into a land promotion agreement with the East of England Agricultural Society to enhance the site with a leisure-led mixed use development.

The Peterborough Panthers will continue to race on-site until the end of the 2023 season, and APEG will continue to support them during this time.

Much of the brownfield site is unused throughout the year, with a handful of outdoor events taking place.

2023 Truckfest, MCN, Motorhomes, Plantworx, and Antiques will all go ahead on the site.

AEPG supports clients of such outdoor events in finding new homes.

Peterborough is looking forward to considerable positive change over the next 5-10 years, with a new purpose-built university opening soon, the council’s City Plan and Cultural Strategy both in effect, and a bid for City of Culture scheduled for 2029.

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Feb 2, 2023 10:43:41 GMT admin said:

AEPG STATEMENT (Thursday February 02, 2023 peterborough-speedway.com/news)

AEPG (Asset Earning Power Groups) is delighted to confirm it will be submitting an Outline Planning application for a significant leisure development, alongside new homes, open space sports pitches, a school and other facilities.

It follows the recent public consultation, for which AEPG would like to express thanks to all those who participated.

In the short term all events between now and July 1 will run as normal, to be followed by the pausing of the arena for events in the short to medium term. As previously confirmed, the Peterborough Panthers speedway team can continue to race on-site through the 2023 season.

In the future when the leisure site - known as Cultura - becomes a regional destination for high-quality entertainment, dining and live entertainment an additional 500 jobs will be created.

The news represents the next step in AEPG’s continued dedication to the regeneration of Peterborough as a sustainable, enjoyable place to live, study and work.

The vision for the site remains one of a connected, holistic environment where families of all generations and cultures can meet to enjoy live music, displays, activities and good food together.

For more information go to www.aepguk.com, email [e-mail], or go to the AEPG Facebook page.

Background notes:

A five-month PPA (Planning Performance Agreement) has seen AEPG working with Peterborough City Council to identify the strongest possible application for the site, with a plan likely to be submitted in the first quarter of 2023. A three-week public consultation was held last month.

Last year AEPG announced it had entered into a land promotion agreement with the East of England Agricultural Society to enhance the site with a leisure-led mixed use development.

The Peterborough Panthers will continue to race on-site until the end of the 2023 season, and APEG will continue to support them during this time.

Much of the brownfield site is unused throughout the year, with a handful of outdoor events taking place.

2023 Truckfest, MCN, Motorhomes, Plantworx, and Antiques will all go ahead on the site.

AEPG supports clients of such outdoor events in finding new homes.

Peterborough is looking forward to considerable positive change over the next 5-10 years, with a new purpose-built university opening soon, the council’s City Plan and Cultural Strategy both in effect, and a bid for City of Culture scheduled for 2029.

load of rubbish all interested in is building houses and nothing else gets done councils should make these developments go ahead after they have built schools doctors shops and leisure facilities and roads before 1 single houseget built …you’ll soon see how interested developers are then in it for thereselves and not worried about poor buggers who are already in the area

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Feb 2, 2023 15:59:31 GMT @arthursleep said:

Feb 2, 2023 10:43:41 GMT admin said:

AEPG STATEMENT (Thursday February 02, 2023 peterborough-speedway.com/news)

AEPG (Asset Earning Power Groups) is delighted to confirm it will be submitting an Outline Planning application for a significant leisure development, alongside new homes, open space sports pitches, a school and other facilities.

It follows the recent public consultation, for which AEPG would like to express thanks to all those who participated.

load of rubbish all interested in is building houses and nothing else gets done councils should make these developments go ahead after they have built schools doctors shops and leisure facilities and roads before 1 single houseget built …you’ll soon see how interested developers are then in it for thereselves and not worried about poor buggers who are already in the area

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Feb 2, 2023 15:59:31 GMT @arthursleep said:

Load of rubbish all interested in is building houses and nothing else gets done councils should make these developments go ahead after they have built schools doctors shops and leisure facilities and roads before 1 single house gets built … you’ll soon see how interested developers are then in it for themselves and not worried about poor buggers who are already in the area

Councillor expects 'robust' reaction from residents ahead of Peterborough Showground development application

“Residents will also be very concerns about the provision of amenities, included doctors, dentists and schools. The area is already very under-served in this regard.”


A city councillor has said she expects a ‘robust’ reaction from residents as a developer prepares to submit a planning application for a new development set for the Peterborough showground.

AEPG announced yesterday that they expect an application will be submitted in the first quarter of the year, as the next step in the proposed transformation from the Showground to a major homes and leisure complex is made.

But cllr Julie Stevenson, who represents the Orton Waterville ward, has said she, and residents living near the site, have a range of concerns about the plans.

She said: “Residents of Ortons Northgate and Southgate have been anticipating this announcement for some time and are anxious to see how their feedback has informed the outline planning application that has been submitted to the council.

"The greatest public concerns are around road safety and congestion, with residents already worried that Oundle Road is unable to cope with the current levels of traffic at peak teams, speeding at other times and inadequate road safety for pedestrians.

“Residents will also be very concerns about the provision of amenities, included doctors, dentists and schools. The area is already very under-served in this regard, and doesn’t even have a community hall of any kind, with residents having to travel over a mile to Orton Brimbles to vote in person, for example.

“While residents appreciate that times and cities must change, community must surely be at the heart of this, and I expect residents to respond to the planning application most robustly.”

The plans would see more than 1,500 homes built on the site, as well as a range of leisure facilities, including a golf driving range, a health and fitness centre, hotel, adventure golf, sports pitching, family entertainment centre and enhanced Arena. Developers AEPG have said they expect the site to create around 500 jobs.

However, the loss of the showground will see the loss of a number of popular Peterborough events, including Truckfest and antiques fairs. AEPG have said they will support Peterborough Panthers speedway team, who will stay at the showground for 2023.

peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/politics/councillor-expects-robust-reaction-from-residents-ahead-of-peterborough-showground-development-application (4/2/23)

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Householders voice safety fears at car transporters on residential streets heading to East of England Showground (ET 16/4/23 shortened copy)

Residents have voiced fears for their safety from huge car transporters using quiet roads on a housing estate to access a vehicle storage and distribution depot at the East of England Showground

About 78 objections have been submitted to Peterborough City Council urging planners to reject a retrospective planning application for the DHL operated depot at the Showground.

There are concerns about what one objector described as ‘ugly’ gates and ANPR cameras at the Dunblane Drive entrance to the Showground. (Never understood why that wasn't/isn't open for the speedway? Would help pre meeting & ease Wacky Races to get out. Neil Watson once said that there was no chance of that gate being used?) - probably explained by “Of most concern, is the use of the Dunblane Drive entrance to the showground and the detrimental effect this is having on the residents". Notwithstanding the effect on the local environment that the increase in daily traffic is undoubtedly causing, of more immediate concern is the potential harmful effect on the health of individuals in the surrounding area apart from the affect on air quality; noise pollution is considered a threat to health and wellbeing of local residents. Residents are also concerned over the increase in safety risk with the additional traffic.

Some also voice anger that the depot is in use before councillors have been given a chance to consider the proposals, which envisage four transporters bringing 80 vehicles to the site each day.

The application, which seeks a five year temporary change of use for a section of the Showground and the exhibition hall, has been submitted by the showground operator, East of England Showground Services.

The new proposals were unveiled shortly before the Showground owner, AEPG submitted an outline planning application for a 50 acre leisure village and 1,500 homes for the Showground site.

A spokesperson for AEPG said a meeting with Orton Southgate and Northgate resident associations was being held at the Showground on Monday (April 16) from 6.30pm to 9pm to give residents a chance to voice their concerns.

Surely can't be agreed anyway? Hope someone raises that at the meeting?

Policy LP36: East of England Showground "The loss of any existing leisure and sports facilities will not be supported unless replacement facilities are provided in accordance with policy LP30".

LP30 - Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities

The loss, via redevelopment, of an existing culture, leisure, tourism or community facility will only be permitted if it is demonstrated that:

k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be
redeveloped for a new community facility; or
l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within
reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature
of the facility and its associated catchment area; or
m. The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or
greater size in a suitable on or off-site location.

k, The EoES is still fit for purpose; l, is a bit tenuous and potentially open to interpretation and argument; m, there is no provision on or off site so without it the Showground can't throw out Peterborough Speedway and agree with the Local Plan?

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Would I be right in saying that whatever the eventual outcome of present proposals the EOES owners can renew the lease for Speedway or not as they see fit. Pretty sure the intention is to make the present Speedway facilities unfit for purpose, so there will be no possibility of Speedway continuing. Whether an injunction could be obtained to prevent this I do not know

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Apr 19, 2023 12:48:59 GMT rodders said:

Would I be right in saying that whatever the eventual outcome of present proposals the EOES owners can renew the lease for Speedway or not as they see fit. Pretty sure the intention is to make the present Speedway facilities unfit for purpose, so there will be no possibility of Speedway continuing. Whether an injunction could be obtained to prevent this I do not know

Good point Rodders. That has often confused me as well. Exactly how much clout have we got as tenants. I was surprised that we got a contract for 2023 because AEPG knew that they were putting in a planning application around now and surely that would have been much easier without Peterborough Speedway alive and kicking? Surely if the club wish to run in 2024 then AEPG (or whoever does the EoES administration) can't really say no (or make it too difficult) without providing alternative and similar provision elsewhere? Although Chapman didn't mention the logistics of Panthers after the EoES (if that happens), he did say, if my memory serves me right, that they hope to have the equal of the EoES elsewhere? Well that agrees with AEPG adhering to LP30.

from club statement: "We have spoken to several people regarding the potential for a new site, but the club would need significant help with that as it would essentially involve building a new stadium." - well if turfed out by AEPG et al then that's down to them if they want their application to pass go!

I do wonder if this confusion, or previous agreements, became the sticking point in Tomalin's takeover? Maybe not but one wonders what went wrong or is still holding things up if he's still interested

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source peterboroughtoday Sept 21 2021

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Here's a good one. Think that it was taken from Rick Frost's helicopter? Hopefully he doesn't mind its use? Can be deleted if need be!

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If they can keep the Arena , there is ample space to have a Speedway Track. Those in charge it seems to me do not want Speedway. From that point of view again it seems to me whatever the eventual outcome , if the bosses do not want Speedway there is no obligation to give Speedway a lease.

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May 8, 2023 20:50:44 GMT rodders said:

If they can keep the Arena , there is ample space to have a Speedway Track. Those in charge it seems to me do not want Speedway. From that point of view again it seems to me whatever the eventual outcome , if the bosses do not want Speedway there is no obligation to give Speedway a lease.

They are just the usual developers with their own agenda, working for and in association with the East of England Agricultural Society. At least I think that I read that in one ET article? What they want is irrelevant if the local plan is worth anything. LP30 was included for a reason and at the request of someone. One can only assume that as the major historical and regular user of EoES that it relates to Peterborough Speedway? So if Peterborough Speedway isn't included in the AEPG planning application then why not and what are they therefore going to do to address LP30?

[bratters]

The Showground has been the goose that laid golden eggs for the East of England Agricultural Society (a charity) for 50 odd years. The profits made paid wages and maintenance of The Showground, but by far the biggest of profits were given away to help development of agriculture, more often than not to ventures in Africa, former Chief of the Showground, Andrew Mercer once told me this. (I’ll admit, I didn’t like him, he was a horrible shit).

With the failure of the East of England Show over a couple of years (in reality they were unlucky with the weather) they binned it, meaning their major purpose of being there was essentially over and their profits obviously took a hit, but they still had profits.

When I was promoter I got to talk to some of the people who put on events, the rental was eye watering (I shudder to think what it is now) for which essentially they received the grounds and a key to get in.

These are the reasons why they got into bed with AEPG, to make one last big profit, which will also give AEPG a big profit. What a shame they didn’t hand over the keys to the city council and let the council put events on all year round, maintain the city’s Speedway heritage, build the 650 dwellings as detailed in LP36 of the Peterborough Local Plan (note, not the 1600 dwellings AEPG want to build) and make a profit for the city of Peterborough and its residents.

In my opinion (and many others) The East of England Agricultural Society (a charity) has done well out of The Showground. Very well. After 50 odd years of taking the golden eggs on land that they paid initially (according to some) nothing for, or (according to others) very little for, surely the most charitable thing they could do is hand The Showground back to the local community?

[bratters]

I also remember Andrew Mercer (I hated that man) proudly showing me the design and plans for The White Elephant Arena. I asked him what events they were planning to put on, ‘everything’ he replied. I asked him if they would put concerts on to which he replied ‘of course, we aim to attract the biggest names in music’. He asked my opinion and after telling him I was no expert, but I did know that a) it wasn’t big enough to attract the biggest names in music and b) the acoustics wouldn’t be good enough because the ceiling was too low. He was quite put out with my reply and our meeting ended.

I chuckle to myself now, all these years later none of the biggest names in music have ever played the arena and for the last couple of years it was used as a venue for a car auction.




edit for "to low." to "too low." -I'm a pedant

[admin]

May 10, 2023 8:48:11 GMT bratters said:

These are the reasons why they got into bed with AEPG, to make one last big profit, which will also give AEPG a big profit. What a shame they didn’t hand over the keys to the city council and let the council put events on all year round, maintain the city’s Speedway heritage, build the 650 dwellings as detailed in LP36 of the Peterborough Local Plan (note, not the 1600 dwellings AEPG want to build) and make a profit for the city of Peterborough and its residents.

In my opinion (and many others) The East of England Agricultural Society (a charity) has done well out of The Showground. Very well. After 50 odd years of taking the golden eggs on land that they paid initially (according to some) nothing for, or (according to others) very little for, surely the most charitable thing they could do is hand The Showground back to the local community?

And when do we get to see the AEPG planning application if it is already allegedly with PCC? Unless they change the local plan (and they've already said that the required review and consultation will take several years) or ignore their plan then PCC should throw it out, again!

[bratters]

Week after next I am told.

[admin]

May 10, 2023 17:50:36 GMT bratters said:

Week after next I am told.

Here's an interesting one. Close to the EoES I guess but can't quite get my bearings from the image:

- Peterborough Today May 12

Delay for 5,000 jobs creating distribution and manufacturing park planned for edge of Peterborough

Developer withdraws application as council starts review of development blueprint

Multi-million pound plans to build a jobs creating business hub on the edge of Peterborough have been withdrawn.

The proposal for the 300 acre A1 West development, on agricultural land on the northbound side of the A1 junction 17 and adjacent to the A605, had been submitted to Huntingdonshire District Council by Newlands Development.

John Barker, director at Newlands Developments, said the plans had been withdrawn while the district council began a review of its Local Plan, which will set out which areas councillors see as suitable for future development.

"The council has started its Local Plan review and we’ve been encouraged in the short term to promote the site through the local plan process.

We’ve had several meetings with the council. We’re waiting for the council to begin its consultation about which sites should be considered for development.

"Hopefully, we will be coming forward with a new application later this year. In an ideal world we would like to start development next year.

The plans had triggered protests from political leaders including North West Cambridgeshire MP Shailesh Vara. They claimed the project contravened the council’s Local Plan and would mean extra traffic, more air pollution and harm views of the countryside.

www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/delay-for-5000-jobs-creating-distribution-and-manufacturing-park-planned-for-edge-of-peterborough-4141197 - full version!

[Bigcatdiary]

May 14, 2023 22:38:57 GMT admin said:

May 10, 2023 17:50:36 GMT bratters said:

Week after next I am told.

Here's an interesting one. Close to the EoES I guess but can't quite get my bearings from the image:

- Peterborough Today May 12

Delay for 5,000 jobs creating distribution and manufacturing park planned for edge of Peterborough

Developer withdraws application as council starts review of development blueprint

Multi-million pound plans to build a jobs creating business hub on the edge of Peterborough have been withdrawn.

The proposal for the 300 acre A1 West development, on agricultural land on the northbound side of the A1 junction 17 and adjacent to the A605, had been submitted to Huntingdonshire District Council by Newlands Development.

John Barker, director at Newlands Developments, said the plans had been withdrawn while the district council began a review of its Local Plan, which will set out which areas councillors see as suitable for future development.

"The council has started its Local Plan review and we’ve been encouraged in the short term to promote the site through the local plan process.

We’ve had several meetings with the council. We’re waiting for the council to begin its consultation about which sites should be considered for development.

"Hopefully, we will be coming forward with a new application later this year. In an ideal world we would like to start development next year.

The plans had triggered protests from political leaders including North West Cambridgeshire MP Shailesh Vara. They claimed the project contravened the council’s Local Plan and would mean extra traffic, more air pollution and harm views of the countryside.

www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/delay-for-5000-jobs-creating-distribution-and-manufacturing-park-planned-for-edge-of-peterborough-4141197 - full version!

It’s the piece of the land opposite the Haddon services on the A605 going towards the Alwalton flyover and on the left hand side of the A1 as your drive north towards Alwalton, very relevant and an interesting comment from the Huntingdonshire Council regarding the application contravenes the Councils local plan.

[admin]

Just having a look an old Panthers forum as you do, well I do, and came across this from 2019 which is quite interesting and relevant to the thread: