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Post by admin on Nov 28, 2023 22:29:31 GMT
Cllr Julie Stevenson of Orton Waterville (28/11/23 for non Facebook users)
IMPORTANT NEWS: Save Peterborough Speedway.
As part of the ongoing campaign to save the sport of speedway in Peterborough, I have tabled a motion that will be debated at the next meeting of the full council on Wednesday 6th December at 6pm.
This is a public meeting that takes place at the Town Hall, Bridge St, Peterborough, that the public are welcome to attend in person.
The meeting can also be watched online via the live stream on the council's YouTube channel.
Six motions will be heard at the meeting and ours is sixth which means it will be heard towards the end of the meeting (I'd guess around 8pm-9:30pm - just to brace you, it's not a short meeting).
You can read the text of the motion below.
Do come along on the night if you can bear to sit for up to four hours listening to a council meeting, or watch live on the YouTube stream. ❤️🖤❤️🖤
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Post by admin on Nov 28, 2023 22:51:33 GMT
6. Motion from Councillor Stevenson
The team motorbike sport known as ‘speedway’ has been of great credit to Peterborough since 1970.
The local ‘Peterborough Panthers’ team has won the highest level national championship three times,
most recently in 2021.
Over the years, the club has brought many trophies to our city at various levels within the sport, including
junior level.
Peterborough Speedway has put the city of on the international map, via regular live TV coverage broadcast on the Warner Bros Discovery TV channel.
Since 1970 until now, Peterborough Panthers has been racing on a purpose-built racetrack, thought to be one of the best in the world, on the East of England Showground.
The showground’s current owner, the East of England Agricultural Society (EEAS) now wishes to sell the showground, and the council’s local plan states that the land may be developed for housing and leisure.
However, AEPG, the company tasked with preparing the showground land for sale on behalf of EEAS has made it clear that the Peterborough speedway club is no longer permitted to race at the showground with immediate effect, regardless of the outcome of its two existing planning applications to redevelop the site. (In an article published in the Peterborough Telegraph on 21st November 2023, AEPG said, “To be clear, the decision not to renew the arrangement for running speedway meets would remain, irrespective of any planning applications on the land.”)
The landowner and its agent having confirmed that the club will not be permitted to race at the showground after the end of the 2023 season (which has now concluded), means that club now has nowhere to race, and with nowhere to race the club cannot continue to operate and the sport of speedway in Peterborough may die.
As a matter of urgency, Peterborough Panthers Speedway Club must now find a new home.
This council acknowledges: The enormous cultural and economic benefits that Peterborough Panthers Speedway Club has brought to Peterborough over the past 53 years.
The many benefits Peterborough Panthers Speedway Club brings to the residents of Peterborough, many of whom have spoken of how the club has contributed positively towards their mental health and sense of wellbeing and community.
That Peterborough Panthers provides positive role models for young people who are interested in motorbikes and provides a means for them to enjoy motorbikes as a sport in a safe and responsible way.
This council resolves: To arrange a meeting between the current owners of the Peterborough Panthers Speedway Team and the council leader and relevant cabinet member(s) and council officers to discover if there is any way the council can help to keep the sport of speedway alive in Peterborough. To promote speedway in Peterborough so that more of the city’s residents are aware of the benefits this family-oriented sport brings to the city.
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Post by admin on Nov 28, 2023 22:52:49 GMT
Must say that I was quite depressed reading that!
"As a matter of urgency, Peterborough Panthers Speedway Club must now find a new home." - not sure how that agrees with the EoES is our home and is where we want to be? Mixed messages far too defensive for me? Hopefully this is just another piece of the jigsaw?
"To arrange a meeting between the current owners of the Peterborough Panthers Speedway Team" - interesting sentence!
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Post by admin on Nov 30, 2023 22:00:52 GMT
Interesting language again in the ET 30/11/23
Panthers to be discussed by Peterborough City Council
The councillor has also submitted a motion to PCC’s next full council meeting calling on its leader, Cllr Mohammed Farooq (Peterborough First, Hargate and Hempsted), to meet with Peterborough Panthers’ owners to see “if there is any way the council can help to keep the sport of speedway alive in Peterborough”.
This meeting will be held on 6th December.
The Panthers have raced at the East of England Showground stadium for more than five decades, since their formation in 1970.
Chapman is THE owner, singular!
The consortium are the OWNERS, plural!
is there something yet to break?
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Dec 1, 2023 9:39:23 GMT
Interesting language again in the ET 30/11/23 Panthers to be discussed by Peterborough City CouncilThe councillor has also submitted a motion to PCC’s next full council meeting calling on its leader, Cllr Mohammed Farooq (Peterborough First, Hargate and Hempsted), to meet with Peterborough Panthers’ owners to see “if there is any way the council can help to keep the sport of speedway alive in Peterborough”. This meeting will be held on 6th December. The Panthers have raced at the East of England Showground stadium for more than five decades, since their formation in 1970. Chapman is THE owner, singular!
The consortium are the OWNERS, plural!
is there something yet to break?I think your reading too much in to it. At this moment in time AFAIK Chapman still owns the club, the confusion is an ET unfortunate choice of words. As for the campaign, it’s chugging along nicely, we are getting plenty of media headlines and it was very clear from the Parish Council Meeting Wednesday that AEPG have few friends locally. |
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Post by admin on Dec 1, 2023 10:01:09 GMT
Interesting language again in the ET 30/11/23 Panthers to be discussed by Peterborough City CouncilThe councillor has also submitted a motion to PCC’s next full council meeting calling on its leader, Cllr Mohammed Farooq (Peterborough First, Hargate and Hempsted), to meet with Peterborough Panthers’ owners to see “if there is any way the council can help to keep the sport of speedway alive in Peterborough”. This meeting will be held on 6th December. The Panthers have raced at the East of England Showground stadium for more than five decades, since their formation in 1970. Chapman is THE owner, singular!
The consortium are the OWNERS, plural!
is there something yet to break?I think your reading too much in to it. At this moment in time AFAIK Chapman still owns the club, the confusion is an ET unfortunate choice of words. As for the campaign, it’s chugging along nicely, we are getting plenty of media headlines and it was very clear from the Parish Council Meeting Wednesday that AEPG have few friends locally. Possibly but it's not an ET error. That wording appears in the PCC MOTIONS ON NOTICE Dec 6 document: This council resolves:a) To arrange a meeting between the current owners of the Peterborough Panthers Speedway Team and the council leader and relevant cabinet member(s) and council officers to discover if there is any way the council can help to keep the sport of speedway alive in Peterborough. b) To promote speedway in Peterborough so that more of the city’s residents are aware of the benefits this family-oriented sport brings to the city AEPG only need a few friends in the right places. I certainly wouldn't read too much in to that. Although they would like to be popular, at the end of the day they are purely money orientated and if they are unpopular but meet their objectives then that's all that they are worried about unfortunately. They don't give a stuff about the wreckage that they leave behind. |
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Post by bratters on Dec 4, 2023 9:39:57 GMT
I think your reading too much in to it. At this moment in time AFAIK Chapman still owns the club, the confusion is an ET unfortunate choice of words. As for the campaign, it’s chugging along nicely, we are getting plenty of media headlines and it was very clear from the Parish Council Meeting Wednesday that AEPG have few friends locally. Possibly but it's not an ET error. That wording appears in the PCC MOTIONS ON NOTICE Dec 6 document: This council resolves:a) To arrange a meeting between the current owners of the Peterborough Panthers Speedway Team and the council leader and relevant cabinet member(s) and council officers to discover if there is any way the council can help to keep the sport of speedway alive in Peterborough. b) To promote speedway in Peterborough so that more of the city’s residents are aware of the benefits this family-oriented sport brings to the city AEPG only need a few friends in the right places. I certainly wouldn't read too much in to that. Although they would like to be popular, at the end of the day they are purely money orientated and if they are unpopular but meet their objectives then that's all that they are worried about unfortunately. They don't give a stuff about the wreckage that they leave behind. That was a draft, the final submission says representatives, not owner. |
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Post by admin on Dec 4, 2023 10:09:25 GMT
Possibly but it's not an ET error. That wording appears in the PCC MOTIONS ON NOTICE Dec 6 document: This council resolves:a) To arrange a meeting between the current owners of the Peterborough Panthers Speedway Team and the council leader and relevant cabinet member(s) and council officers to discover if there is any way the council can help to keep the sport of speedway alive in Peterborough. b) To promote speedway in Peterborough so that more of the city’s residents are aware of the benefits this family-oriented sport brings to the city AEPG only need a few friends in the right places. I certainly wouldn't read too much in to that. Although they would like to be popular, at the end of the day they are purely money orientated and if they are unpopular but meet their objectives then that's all that they are worried about unfortunately. They don't give a stuff about the wreckage that they leave behind. That was a draft, the final submission says representatives, not owner. It was never said anywhere or indicated that it was draft. I've just checked the PCC website and the agenda and reports pack for the meeting still has exactly that text on page 97. I'm not saying that you're wrong but it doesn't exactly instill confidence if they can't get the basics right. democracy.peterborough.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=139&MId=4914&Ver=4 |
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Post by bratters on Dec 4, 2023 12:12:38 GMT
The final version was sent over the weekend. It was a genuine error.
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Post by rodders on Dec 4, 2023 12:30:12 GMT
Carl has said words to effect sale of club to consortium very close. What is current position? Buster cares a great deal more about Buster than Panthers in my view.
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Post by admin on Dec 4, 2023 12:58:05 GMT
Carl has said words to effect sale of club to consortium very close. What is current position? Buster cares a great deal more about Buster than Panthers in my view. They've been saying that for weeks. Would be more interesting to know why and what the plan is should it ever happen. |
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Post by rodders on Dec 4, 2023 16:48:34 GMT
Carl has said words to effect sale of club to consortium very close. What is current position? Buster cares a great deal more about Buster than Panthers in my view. They've been saying that for weeks. Would be more interesting to know why and what the plan is should it ever happen. Exactly, consortium need to keep fans in the loop with daily up date even if nothing to report. Keeping things on a need to know basis has a tendency for those not considered worthy of being in inner circle to to lose a deal of interest |
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Post by admin on Dec 4, 2023 21:08:59 GMT
They've been saying that for weeks. Would be more interesting to know why and what the plan is should it ever happen. Exactly, consortium need to keep fans in the loop with daily up date even if nothing to report. Keeping things on a need to know basis has a tendency for those not considered worthy of being in inner circle to to lose a deal of interest It's nothing about worthy is it? There's always an inner circle who decide what those outside need to know. You are never going to get it all, or probably the accurate story, but that's life unfortunately. 2023 has certainly opened people's eyes to that fact, and still it continues. Losing 2024 (terrible mistake) has probably finished us IMO (and I think yours) and I think that outside of the supporters club (although I'm sure that I saw a post saying that they were still deciding on their direction in 2024) I think keeping the interest going for the fight is going to be a challenge. If they keep a group numbering 3 figures going then they'll have done well. |
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Post by admin on Dec 4, 2023 21:30:52 GMT
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Dec 5, 2023 9:14:17 GMT
Exactly, consortium need to keep fans in the loop with daily up date even if nothing to report. Keeping things on a need to know basis has a tendency for those not considered worthy of being in inner circle to to lose a deal of interest It's nothing about worthy is it? There's always an inner circle who decide what those outside need to know. You are never going to get it all, or probably the accurate story, but that's life unfortunately. 2023 has certainly opened people's eyes to that fact, and still it continues. Losing 2024 (terrible mistake) has probably finished us IMO (and I think yours) and I think that outside of the supporters club (although I'm sure that I saw a post saying that they were still deciding on their direction in 2024) I think keeping the interest going for the fight is going to be a challenge. If they keep a group numbering 3 figures going then they'll have done well. I have spoken with Katy Lewis several times regarding the way forward and I am pleased to say she shares my view that we keep going for the foreseeable future, I can say we have had some interest in new members as people want to get on board and this arm will be vital to hopefully get the club back racing again, and some discussion has already taken place regarding supporters club events for 2024. AGM will be in the New Year. |
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Post by admin on Dec 5, 2023 17:48:31 GMT
It's nothing about worthy is it? There's always an inner circle who decide what those outside need to know. You are never going to get it all, or probably the accurate story, but that's life unfortunately. 2023 has certainly opened people's eyes to that fact, and still it continues. Losing 2024 (terrible mistake) has probably finished us IMO (and I think yours) and I think that outside of the supporters club (although I'm sure that I saw a post saying that they were still deciding on their direction in 2024) I think keeping the interest going for the fight is going to be a challenge. If they keep a group numbering 3 figures going then they'll have done well. I have spoken with Katy Lewis several times regarding the way forward and I am pleased to say she shares my view that we keep going for the foreseeable future, I can say we have had some interest in new members as people want to get on board and this arm will be vital to hopefully get the club back racing again, and some discussion has already taken place regarding supporters club events for 2024. AGM will be in the New Year. I don't know why a way forward was ever mentioned. Bratters was saying join the supporters club, CJ is saying that they want to return in 2025 so it was pretty clear that the supporters club would be vital for fan support during a season without track action or interest. I still think that they will need to see more progress and hope (with AEPG on the back foot and in retreat) to keep the enthusiasm going in 2024. |
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Post by rodders on Dec 5, 2023 21:17:53 GMT
I have spoken with Katy Lewis several times regarding the way forward and I am pleased to say she shares my view that we keep going for the foreseeable future, I can say we have had some interest in new members as people want to get on board and this arm will be vital to hopefully get the club back racing again, and some discussion has already taken place regarding supporters club events for 2024. AGM will be in the New Year. I don't know why a way forward was ever mentioned. Bratters was saying join the supporters club, CJ is saying that they want to return in 2025 so it was pretty clear that the supporters club would be vital for fan support during a season without track action or interest. I still think that they will need to see more progress and hope (with AEPG on the back foot and in retreat) to keep the enthusiasm going in 2024. I just do not see where the consortium are going with this. AEPG adamant Speedway finished. Consortium say different but show no facts to support their view. |
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Post by admin on Dec 5, 2023 21:42:08 GMT
I don't know why a way forward was ever mentioned. Bratters was saying join the supporters club, CJ is saying that they want to return in 2025 so it was pretty clear that the supporters club would be vital for fan support during a season without track action or interest. I still think that they will need to see more progress and hope (with AEPG on the back foot and in retreat) to keep the enthusiasm going in 2024. I just do not see where the consortium are going with this. AEPG adamant Speedway finished. Consortium say different but show no facts to support their view. It's pretty easy to see where they think they are going, or at least give that impression, but despite a lot of continuing huffing and puffing, nothing has changed. We need a win somewhere quickly. If we're just playing catch up waiting for AEPG to make their move then at some point their move will be the fatal blow from which there is no return. Losing 2024 was probably it IMHO anyway. |
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Post by rodders on Dec 6, 2023 18:16:27 GMT
Meeting today I believe? So what was the result? Anybody know?
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Post by admin on Dec 6, 2023 21:32:13 GMT
Meeting today I believe? So what was the result? Anybody know? Just watching it now (9.25 pm) but I've no idea where we are at? I doubt that the motions have been discussed yet (or they might be on them?). If I can stick with it I'll see what happens or catch up tomorrow. |
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Post by admin on Dec 6, 2023 22:05:36 GMT
Meeting today I believe? So what was the result? Anybody know? 10pm seems to have finished. Buggered if I know what went on. |
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Post by admin on Dec 6, 2023 23:22:04 GMT
Meeting today I believe? So what was the result? Anybody know? Ah it was at the start. Bratters asked that with the EoES lost atm, what are PCC going to do to facilitate large scale culture, sporting and other activities for Peterborough people and its visitors? Councillor Peter Hiller replied saying that EoES is still officially an active events facility but that they will continue to work with interested parties/promoters and make available and use other council land for such events. He cited the Bridge Fair, Beer Festival and AEPG sponsored (although he didn't say that) Great Eastern Run, so not great examples from the 45 events that allegedly took place in the last 1/4. Using the embankment and Cathedral square as examples of available space wasn't great either if that's supposed to answer the question or fill the void. He did add that Peterborough Cultural Alliance are working on a delivery plan for events in the coming years. PCC are applying for a Arts Council England grant to aid with that objective. He also said that he couldn't say much as because of ongoing planning applications. Bratters supplementary was that the speedway track is also going to be lost and what were PCC going to do to ensure that the sport is not lost to the city. Councillor Peter Hiller once again said that he couldn't really say much because of the current planning process although he was sympathetic to our situation and would hope that something could be sorted in future, which he'd support and like to be involved in. So basically it didn't move the dial too much but did wake them all up to the situation so was very useful in that respect. It still rests on AEPG putting their applications forward and the decisions of the Planning and Environmental Committee. My feeling is that this really isn't over if Bratter's and co keep banging away. AEPG may get their 650 approved but they may not get out of LP30 which really would throw a spanner in the works.
Wondered where the motion got to? Cllr Julie Stevenson@CllrJulieS 6/12/23If you're wondering why I withdrew my motion this evening, tune in to BBC Radio Cambs at 7:30am for I shall be telling @dottymcl all about it. (Spoiler: it's nothing bad.) |
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Post by admin on Dec 7, 2023 9:42:53 GMT
The final version was sent over the weekend. It was a genuine error. However, to be pedantic, it was mentioned again 3 times here "BBC Radio Cambs 7 December 2023 Council motion to save Peterborough speedway" without correction or clarification. |
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Post by admin on Dec 7, 2023 9:55:30 GMT
Wondered where the motion got to? Cllr Julie Stevenson@CllrJulieS 6/12/23If you're wondering why I withdrew my motion this evening, tune in to BBC Radio Cambs at 7:30am for I shall be telling @dottymcl all about it. (Spoiler: it's nothing bad.) As with Bratters questions, it's clear that they want to stay at arms length from anything planning related, or at least with this monster anyway. Overall job done though. Speedway is once again recognised and centre stage, Mick Bratley makes himself known to full council and challenges them to think about the loss and destruction that they are presiding over. ding ding, next round! |
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Dec 7, 2023 10:10:54 GMT
Wondered where the motion got to? Cllr Julie Stevenson@CllrJulieS 6/12/23If you're wondering why I withdrew my motion this evening, tune in to BBC Radio Cambs at 7:30am for I shall be telling @dottymcl all about it. (Spoiler: it's nothing bad.) As with Bratters questions, it's clear that they want to stay at arms length from anything planning related, or at least with this monster anyway. Overall job done though. Speedway is once again recognised and centre stage, Mick Bratley makes himself known to full council and challenges them to think about the loss and destruction that they are presiding over. ding ding, next round! The motion was withdrawn because it hadn’t got a seconder, its planned to re apply, not sure why it didn’t get a seconder on the night but it was a fairly quick turnaround so maybe time came into it. |
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