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Post by admin on Apr 17, 2024 16:55:14 GMT
What is perhaps more concerning is that this: "Here's the interview our CEO did this week with PCRFM, alongside Dave from Up The Garden Bath and Dilraj from Citizens UK Peterborough." Was liked on Facebook by a PCC manager when the planning process is ongoing. You'd think that they'd steer clear of social media that's work related (didn't someone do that regarding our ACV application?) Not a great look IMHO for impartiality and fairness is it  And just liked the latest AEPG post about the Great Eastern Run - never learn  |
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Post by admin on Apr 18, 2024 8:39:48 GMT
Good to see that I nudged our mate, Old Nutter, from Biggleswade who posted on the BSF re  PCC Policy plandocs.peterborough.gov.uk/PublicDocuments/01326357.pdf
That document on the PCC planning portal that gives the AEPG rebuttal of the speedway at the EoES is very telling. plandocs.peterborough.gov.uk/PublicDocuments/01327798.pdf
The obvious anger in the tone of it shows how much Butterfield is hurting and how much the fact that he had no idea at all about anything to do with speedway was in his mind all along.
The fact that he didn't even understand the position of speedway in the sporting hierarchy of the country is an obvious open personal failure on his part. It shows that he has had no intention at all of even considering speedway as a part of his thinking when he used the standard proforma approach to the development planning structure.
That exposed level of incompetence has become personal now.
In that document he has exposed the extent to which he was intent on only considering the bog-standard development type carbon copy that has succeeded when used by others in the past down south. That hollow personal crusade approach makes it very clear that the sort of activities that have made the EoES so valued by the community were never going to line his pockets to the extent he thinks he needs to survive. That makes him simultaneously both dangerous and vulnerable.
The AEPG approach is to make a significant point in the low number of times a section of the EoES would be used for speedway.
On it's own that simplistic outsider understanding is obvious in every part of the Butterfield plan.
No separate proper spectator sport can ever hope to get close to making a profit without becoming a part of a shared multi-use volume occupancy. Even the new Spurs stadium has been designed to take in American Football, Women's Football and huge pop concerts plus more.
The lack of speedway in Peterborough is solely down to one misguided outsider.
Any multi-use sport facility of the kind that anyone with a single brain-cell would contemplate to future-proof the continued community value of the EoES would have to be designed to accommodate a wide range of sports, both inside and outside. The areas under the grandstands could be able to house gym-type sporting facilities, squash, badminton, martial arts and so-on. The centre green could be used for grass type sports like local school football and hockey championships and so on.
Add that to the fact that the local plan only approved 650-ish houses by including the LP30 sections because it was making sure that there were proper large spaces to carry on the EoES legacy of events rather than the Butterfield concrete jungle of houses, the hotel/pub that no brewery will ever want to take on and daft posh-boy pseudo-sports concrete shells, mean this ill-conceived pile of dross should be consigned to hanging on a piece of string in the smallest room so it is at least doing something useful.
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Just a reminder that everyone can make additional comments if they wish:
This post should be in "smile for today" really because although the customer made comments in support on the PCC Planning Portal they couldn't actually expand on that with anything positive and therefore submitted a blank page! Yup, that sums the AEPG vision up |
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Post by admin on Apr 20, 2024 21:34:47 GMT
With 5300 or more houses being currently built in Great Haddon and more elsewhere in the City, we are likely already meeting government targets for house building over the next few years. 1500 extra houses will put a massive extra strain everywhere in the Orton and Alwalton area, the development isn’t wanted and in my view, as a resident, isn’t needed. Yup. And as one of the consultees mentioned, was Great Haddon overlap/conflicts considered for this project? I see that a small section of GH (1500 homes), but as big as this ill thought out EoES project, has already welcomed visitors according to Peterborough Today "First visitors welcomed to Great Haddon Wood location in Peterborough. Three housebuilders have welcomed the first visitors to a new neighbourhood at Great Haddon in Peterborough 19/4/24." |
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Post by admin on Apr 23, 2024 22:05:33 GMT
I am not local so do not know but to me the Dog Track seems the solution. That was Danny Dunton's original plan Not that it ever appeared a goer but PCC have finally nailed down the coffin enclosing another of Peterborough's Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities. A couple of warning signs to note: Plans to demolish Peterborough’s famous Greyhound Stadium to make way for a jobs-creating industrial hub have been given the green light. PT 23/4/24 Approval for the redevelopment of the stadium in First Drove, Fengate, has been granted by Peterborough City Council 17 months after the plans were first unveiled.The plans were submitted by buildings project developer Fengate Land Holdings and attracted scores of objections from people across the country.And from the AEPG play-book: A spokesperson for the applicant said: “The proposals seek to deliver employment development that will provide several economic benefits. "Job opportunities will be provided for residents of Peterborough, in addition to a significant financial contribution being made to the council by way of business rates.” It is estimated the development will create up to 65 on-site construction jobs as well as the 260 jobs when the project is completed. The industrial hub will eventually generate business rates of £200,000 a year and add £11.2 million to the city’s economic wealth.
However, the redevelopment of the Greyhound Stadium will be met with sadness by many people who regularly gathered at the venue for social and sporting occasions. The stadium has hosted greyhound racing since the 1930s and was bought by the Perkins family in 1945. Racing continued until the outbreak of the Covid pandemic in 2019 when lockdown restrictions halted all social gatherings. |
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2024 20:30:41 GMT
East of England Showground development: 'Spades could go in the ground this time next year'
Work on a £50 million leisure village-led development of the East of England Showground could start this time next year, it has been claimed.
Spades could go in the ground by next April to begin a transformation of the 164 acre site at Alwalton which will see the construction of a multi-use leisure village and 1,500 homes.
Operators for sports and leisure activities and a national housing developer have already been signed up to the project.
Ashley Butterfield, chief executive of AEPG, the land promoter chosen by Showground owners, the East of England Agricultural Society, said: “We are hoping that Peterborough City Council will consider our applications in June or July of this year.
"We hope to see spades in the ground to start development this time next year.
“We already have operators for our leisure village and a developer for the homes committed and ready to go as soon as we get planning approval.”
AEPG has submitted two outline planning applications. One is for 650 homes already allocated for part of the site by the council in its Local Plan.
The second is for the leisure village and a further 850 homes.
Mr Butterfield said: “There has been a lot of support for our proposals from business organisations, charities and the public.
"The development will deliver 500 jobs and create valuable income for the city.”
What does the development look like?
The central feature is 50 acres devoted to active family entertainment, sport and leisure, called Cultura Place.
Designed by leisure attractions specialist Greenspan, the creator of Volcano Falls in Milton Keynes, the Showground’s leisure village will include an indoor arena, a court for a padel – a mix of tennis and squash – a two storey, state-of-the-art golf driving range, a zip coaster, climbing wall, bungee trampolines, a jump tower and bounce pillow, mini Land Rovers, a bike trail and more.
The 4,640 square metre indoor family entertainment centre will contain a range of activities from axe throwing to interactive darts, table tennis, a bowling alley, a 12 hole adventure golf and high ropes area, pool and football tables, a trampoline zone and climbing walls.
The village will also include a 250-bed hotel, a school and a retirement village overseen by the Extracare charitable trust.
The 1,500 residential homes will be ecologically sound and in green space maintained to an ‘exceptional’ standard.
Is there a future for speedway racing?
The end of speedway racing at the Showground after 50 years plus has prompted numerous objections to the Showground’s development.
But Mr Butterfield said: “Even if we don’t get planning permission, there is no way speedway will return to the Showground.
"Holding it here was costing the society £70,000 a year. It was making a loss. Its home was never here – the club was only on a monthly renewable tenancy.”
Why does the Showground have to be developed?
The Showground has been used by the Agricultural Society since 1966 for its annual agricultural shows. The number of people attending substantially declined from 2012.
In 2019 the site was allocated for development and in 2020 the society announced its intention to leave and promote the land for development.
Alistair Beattie, the society’s interim chief executive, said the proceeds from the sale would fund the society’s educational work.
peterboroughtoday.co.uk
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2024 20:38:16 GMT
Where to start? Anyone watch Dan Bongino? He'd sum this up perfectly. Watch him if you haven't, you'll soon get the idea! We have "could" and "claimed" doing the heavy lifting in the opener. The convenient speedway related long future date of April 2025 is selected when Butterfield said in the January radio interview that he would like to start tomorrow! (ie 3 months ago). Butterfield then moves on to hope because it doesn't matter who he has hooked up with or provisionally signed, planning is only at the application stage and it's a long way from approval, if it ever happens? I'd like to see and investigate the evidence for this: Mr Butterfield said: “There has been a lot of support for our proposals from business organisations, charities and the public. - doesn't mention the 1000s of objections which are in the public domain As for "The development will deliver 500 jobs and create valuable income for the city.” Butterfield said in January that "We have currently undertaken and economic impact assessment for the whole development and we believe that this will show an impact that will be substantially positive in both financial terms and in job creation. We will be sharing these once we have the findings of this report." - is that report available yet? As for the leisure attractions: I've been walking the dogs at Central Park for 25 years and the tennis courts, bowling greens, exercise equipment etc are all unused for at least 75% of the time, that's if I'm being generous. The EoES already had a golf driving range that was unused and closed in approx 2008. Climbing walls get a double mention when the Nene Park Trust across the road are planning to build an Olympic grade Climbing Wall and Activity Centre in Peterborough’s Ferry Meadows. The costs were being reviewed (outcome should be known or forthcoming any time?) and it would be interesting to know where they are on that to examine any unnecessary overlap. Usual speedway nonsense that I'm sure that the consortium has already often debunked? - "Holding it here was costing the society £70,000 a year. It was making a loss. Its home was never here – the club was only on a monthly renewable tenancy.” Monthly, that's a new one. Even Mr Beattie said that: "Regarding the loss of Peterborough Speedway, the owners have changed several times over the years and they have only ever operated under an annual license arrangement. Peterborough Speedway: " Its home was never here" - now I know that Wikipedia isn't the best source but this is accurate enough: The Stadium at the East of England Showground is the home of the Peterborough Panthers speedway team who race in the SGB Premiership, the highest level of Speedway in the United Kingdom. The track is 336 metres (367 yards) long and the stadium has a 2,200 capacity grandstand along with grass banking on the back straight. The venue first hosted speedway on 12 June 1970, when Peterborough competed in their inaugural campaign, the 1970 British League Division Two season. The Peterborough track was also the host of the 2002 Speedway World Cup Final which took place on 10 August. Australia, with Jason Crump, Leigh Adams, Todd Wiltshire, and Peterborough Panthers riders Ryan Sullivan and Jason Lyons, won their second consecutive Speedway World Cup defeating Denmark, Sweden, Poland and the Czech Republic. The Showground also hosted the 2001 Under-21 World Championship final won by Poland's Dawid Kujawa - And there has been 20+ consecutive seasons since, that seems like a home to me |
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Post by Hodgy on Apr 24, 2024 22:34:53 GMT
Where to start? Anyone watch Dan Bongino? He'd sum this up perfectly. Watch him if you haven't, you'll soon get the idea! We have "could" and "claimed" doing the heavy lifting in the opener. The convenient speedway related long future date of April 2025 is selected when Butterfield said in the January radio interview that he would like to start tomorrow! (ie 3 months ago). Butterfield then moves on to hope because it doesn't matter who he has hooked up with or provisionally signed, planning is only at the application stage and it's a long way from approval, if it ever happens? I'd like to see and investigate the evidence for this: Mr Butterfield said: “There has been a lot of support for our proposals from business organisations, charities and the public. - doesn't mention the 1000s of objections which are in the public domain As for "The development will deliver 500 jobs and create valuable income for the city.” Butterfield said in January that "We have currently undertaken and economic impact assessment for the whole development and we believe that this will show an impact that will be substantially positive in both financial terms and in job creation. We will be sharing these once we have the findings of this report." - is that report available yet? As for the leisure attractions: I've been walking the dogs at Central Park for 25 years and the tennis courts, bowling greens, exercise equipment etc are all unused for at least 75% of the time, that's if I'm being generous. The EoES already had a golf driving range that was unused and closed in approx 2008. Climbing walls get a double mention when Ferry Meadows across the road are planning to build an Olympic grade Climbing Wall and Activity Centre in Peterborough’s Ferry Meadows. The costs were being reviewed (outcome should be known or forthcoming any time?) and it would be interesting to know where they are on that to examine any unnecessary overlap. Usual speedway nonsense that I'm sure that the consortium has already often debunked? - "Holding it here was costing the society £70,000 a year. It was making a loss. Its home was never here – the club was only on a monthly renewable tenancy.” Monthly, that's a new one. Even Mr Beattie said that: "Regarding the loss of Peterborough Speedway, the owners have changed several times over the years and they have only ever operated under an annual license arrangement. I can’t really add too much to that. Other than Mr Butterfields statements really peed me off. “Its home was never here”! That just sums this person up in a nutshell 🤬 |
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Post by admin on Apr 24, 2024 22:55:39 GMT
I can’t really add too much to that. Other than Mr Butterfields statements really peed me off. “Its home was never here”! That just sums this person up in a nutshell 🤬 Agreed. I've just added a bit about that in my piece. Peterborough Speedway: " Its home was never here" - now I know that Wikipedia isn't the best source but this is accurate enough: The Stadium at the East of England Showground is the home of the Peterborough Panthers speedway team who race in the SGB Premiership, the highest level of Speedway in the United Kingdom. The track is 336 metres (367 yards) long and the stadium has a 2,200 capacity grandstand along with grass banking on the back straight. The venue first hosted speedway on 12 June 1970, when Peterborough competed in their inaugural campaign, the 1970 British League Division Two season. The Peterborough track was also the host of the 2002 Speedway World Cup Final which took place on 10 August. Australia, with Jason Crump, Leigh Adams, Todd Wiltshire, and Peterborough Panthers riders Ryan Sullivan and Jason Lyons, won their second consecutive Speedway World Cup defeating Denmark, Sweden, Poland and the Czech Republic. The Showground also hosted the 2001 Under-21 World Championship final won by Poland's Dawid Kujawa - And there has been 20+ consecutive seasons since, that seems like a home to me |
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Post by bratters on Apr 25, 2024 9:31:10 GMT
Butterfield is a chancer. He lacks experience in developing a site of this magnitude. He knows his planning applications will be rejected later this year or early next year, he knows this will have to go to an expensive appeals process. He doesn’t want that because he doesn’t have the financial backing. What happened to spades in the ground summer/autumn 2024? Inexperienced chancer.
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Post by admin on Apr 25, 2024 9:52:08 GMT
Butterfield is a chancer. He lacks experience in developing a site of this magnitude. He knows his planning applications will be rejected later this year or early next year, he knows this will have to go to an expensive appeals process. He doesn’t want that because he doesn’t have the financial backing. What happened to spades in the ground summer/autumn 2024? Inexperienced chancer. Maybe but the bit I don't get is whether the EEAS/AEPG are therefore prepared to play the long game a just sit on the land? I've never thought that that would be their strategy. I think more attention needs to be paid to how the EoES is being used now and potentially abused, along with any money streams emanating from any on-site operations. I also don't get the alleged business deals? Based on what? Butterfield said that the land sale was subject to planning although I'm sure that I've read that he has allegedly already sold land parcels? So businesses are buying land and doing deals based on fresh air? Either someone is talking utter cobblers or there is a nasty whiff here? Hopefully it's the former. |
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Post by rodders on Apr 25, 2024 18:34:23 GMT
Butterfield is a chancer. He lacks experience in developing a site of this magnitude. He knows his planning applications will be rejected later this year or early next year, he knows this will have to go to an expensive appeals process. He doesn’t want that because he doesn’t have the financial backing. What happened to spades in the ground summer/autumn 2024? Inexperienced chancer. Maybe but the bit I don't get is whether the EEAS/AEPG are therefore prepared to play the long game a just sit on the land? I've never thought that that would be their strategy. I think more attention needs to be paid to how the EoES is being used now and potentially abused, along with any money streams emanating from any on-site operations. I also don't get alleged the business deals? Based on what? Butterfield said that the land sale was subject to planning although I'm sure that I've read that he has allegedly already sold land parcels? So businesses are buying land and doing deals based on fresh air? Either someone is talking utter cobblers or there is a nasty whiff here? Hopefully it's the former. Despite all of above does not seem that we any closer to achieving our objective. |
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Post by admin on Apr 25, 2024 20:47:46 GMT
Maybe but the bit I don't get is whether the EEAS/AEPG are therefore prepared to play the long game a just sit on the land? I've never thought that that would be their strategy. I think more attention needs to be paid to how the EoES is being used now and potentially abused, along with any money streams emanating from any on-site operations. I also don't get alleged the business deals? Based on what? Butterfield said that the land sale was subject to planning although I'm sure that I've read that he has allegedly already sold land parcels? So businesses are buying land and doing deals based on fresh air? Either someone is talking utter cobblers or there is a nasty whiff here? Hopefully it's the former. Despite all of above does not seem that we any closer to achieving our objective. Agreed. The problem is that we knew what the objective was last October, although there was no obvious mechanism to get there with Butterfield entrenched and digging his heels in, as he still is. Therefore, what is the objective now and how do we plan to get there? I'm not sure that showing our hand is a good thing as AEPG just seem to get in the first blow when there's a whiff of anything positive from our side. I'm sure that a statement from the consortium will be forthcoming any time now? Probably something generic and pretty non specific about our objectives will have to do for the time being? Until AEPG play their hand and/or something significant happens then it appears to be perpetual stalemate? |
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Post by admin on Apr 25, 2024 22:11:11 GMT
I'm sure that a statement from the consortium will be forthcoming any time now? Mick Bratley said on he BSF Thursday 25/4/24:The consortium will hopefully release a statement on Friday, once it has been reviewed by their legal team. |
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Post by bratters on Apr 29, 2024 11:04:07 GMT
Peterborough Speedway Consortium Update April 2024
The Consortium fighting to retain Speedway at the East of England Showground met at the headquarters of The City Auction Group in Orton Southgate on Monday 22 April 2024 to review their current position, including the successful opposition to development plans for Coventry Speedway Stadium and to make plans for the future.
As a result of the meeting it was felt that a number of issues needed clarification for Peterborough Speedway supporters.
A press release from AEPG last year stated that the then incumbent Peterborough Speedway Promotion had taken it upon themselves to remove the Speedway track, safety fence and pits outbuildings from the East of England Showground. This is incorrect. Although potential removal of Speedway equipment has always been listed in every rental agreement, it should be pointed out that these actions were taken under direct instructions from AEPG’s Asset Manager.
We are also aware that the AEPG management has taken it upon itself to decommission the Grandstand. The seats have been removed and are said to have been donated to a local sports club. The rear of the Grandstand cladding has also been removed. It is worth noting that the Grandstand is currently the subject of an Asset of Community Value application supported by Orton Waterville Parish Council which is currently being considered by Peterborough City Council, the outcome of which is expected imminently.
The Consortium is keen to respond to a number of misleading suggestions about the planning applications and the position of Speedway at the East of England Showground.
The failure of AEPG to submit a local and national policy compliant planning application is at the heart of our campaign. The Peterborough Local Plan (LP30/LP36) requires that sporting facilities at risk to development should be replaced. The National Planning Policy Framework republished by the government as recently as December 2023 protects sporting facilities at risk from development.
Arguments raised by AEPG in an attempt to avoid local and national policies are the same arguments raised in favour of development in the Coventry Stadium Planning Appeal and which were rejected by the Planning Inspector thereby putting a stop to development plans which would have seen the loss of a Speedway track.
Whenever required we will work to ensure that the reasons behind the successful opposition to the Coventry Stadium development plans are applied to the East of England Showground and AEPG’s applications.
It is particularly sad to see that there is no Speedway at the East of England Showground this season. The developer’s planning applications are no further forward, have thousands of objections from members of the public and various authorities and organisations. Speedway could have been held at The East of England Showground in 2024 and beyond.
The developer’s suggested timetable for sale and building on the East of England Showground ignores its policy compliance failures and is, in our view, no more than ‘pie in the sky’.
In response to Ashley Butterfield’s comments on the Peterborough Today website on 24th April 2024, the financial figure he quotes is a complete fabrication. Peterborough Speedway is a profitable and viable business, accounts are freely available for viewing on Companies House. The East of England Showground has been the home of Peterborough Speedway for 53 years and the club has always enjoyed a yearly season by season rental agreement.
Peterborough Speedway has a rich 53 year heritage during which it has raised Peterborough’s profile throughout the world and is much missed both by the local community and Speedway supporters both in the U.K. and worldwide.
The Consortium remains committed to opposing AEPG’s planning applications and returning Peterborough Speedway to the East of England Showground in 2025.
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Post by rodders on Apr 29, 2024 12:44:59 GMT
Peterborough Speedway Consortium Update April 2024 It has been clear that given a little goodwill Speedway could have continued for this season at least . Also clear that those now in control of Showground have no intention to allow Speedway to continue. What I have never understood is why it is not understood that owners of Show ground have no obligation to grant a lease if they do not want to. |
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Post by admin on Apr 29, 2024 15:09:22 GMT
Peterborough Speedway Consortium Update April 2024 It has been clear that given a little goodwill Speedway could have continued for this season at least. Also clear that those now in control of Showground have no intention to allow Speedway to continue. What I have never understood is why it is not understood that owners of Show ground have no obligation to grant a lease if they do not want to. It is well understood that they don't need to offer speedway a home but we are where we are, but why? After an annual Peterborough Speedway agreement without issue for 50 years you have to look at their reasoning and decide whether you say, fair play, it's your ball to take away and accept it, or smell the bad blood, greed and ignorance and fight the injustice |
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Post by admin on Apr 29, 2024 15:11:39 GMT
Some light reading which have taken a week to appear on the Planning Portal for some reason   They were not there Friday or Saturday when I looked so were only added today 29/4! |
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Post by admin on Apr 29, 2024 15:21:55 GMT
Peterborough Speedway Consortium Update April 2024The Consortium fighting to retain Speedway at the East of England Showground met at the headquarters of The City Auction Group in Orton Southgate on Monday 22 April 2024 to review their current position, including the successful opposition to development plans for Coventry Speedway Stadium and to make plans for the future. As a result of the meeting it was felt that a number of issues needed clarification for Peterborough Speedway supporters. A press release from AEPG last year stated that the then incumbent Peterborough Speedway Promotion had taken it upon themselves to remove the Speedway track, safety fence and pits outbuildings from the East of England Showground. This is incorrect. Although potential removal of Speedway equipment has always been listed in every rental agreement, it should be pointed out that these actions were taken under direct instructions from AEPG’s Asset Manager. We are also aware that the AEPG management has taken it upon itself to decommission the Grandstand. The seats have been removed and are said to have been donated to a local sports club. The rear of the Grandstand cladding has also been removed. It is worth noting that the Grandstand is currently the subject of an Asset of Community Value application supported by Orton Waterville Parish Council which is currently being considered by Peterborough City Council, the outcome of which is expected imminently. The Consortium is keen to respond to a number of misleading suggestions about the planning applications and the position of Speedway at the East of England Showground. The failure of AEPG to submit a local and national policy compliant planning application is at the heart of our campaign. The Peterborough Local Plan (LP30/LP36) requires that sporting facilities at risk to development should be replaced. The National Planning Policy Framework republished by the government as recently as December 2023 protects sporting facilities at risk from development. Arguments raised by AEPG in an attempt to avoid local and national policies are the same arguments raised in favour of development in the Coventry Stadium Planning Appeal and which were rejected by the Planning Inspector thereby putting a stop to development plans which would have seen the loss of a Speedway track. Whenever required we will work to ensure that the reasons behind the successful opposition to the Coventry Stadium development plans are applied to the East of England Showground and AEPG’s applications. It is particularly sad to see that there is no Speedway at the East of England Showground this season. The developer’s planning applications are no further forward, have thousands of objections from members of the public and various authorities and organisations. Speedway could have been held at The East of England Showground in 2024 and beyond. The developer’s suggested timetable for sale and building on the East of England Showground ignores its policy compliance failures and is, in our view, no more than ‘pie in the sky’. In response to Ashley Butterfield’s comments on the Peterborough Today website on 24th April 2024, the financial figure he quotes is a complete fabrication. Peterborough Speedway is a profitable and viable business, accounts are freely available for viewing on Companies House. The East of England Showground has been the home of Peterborough Speedway for 53 years and the club has always enjoyed a yearly season by season rental agreement. Peterborough Speedway has a rich 53 year heritage during which it has raised Peterborough’s profile throughout the world and is much missed both by the local community and Speedway supporters both in the U.K. and worldwide. The Consortium remains committed to opposing AEPG’s planning applications and returning Peterborough Speedway to the East of England Showground in 2025. Good effort  |
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Post by bratters on Apr 29, 2024 22:32:53 GMT
Some light reading which have taken a week to appear on the Planning Portal for some reason They were not there Friday or Saturday when I looked so were only added today 29/4! Looks like the gloves are off from page 10 of the Leisure and Community Impact Assessment. |
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Post by admin on Apr 29, 2024 23:49:18 GMT
Some light reading which have taken a week to appear on the Planning Portal for some reason They were not there Friday or Saturday when I looked so were only added today 29/4! Looks like the gloves are off from page 10 of the Leisure and Community Impact Assessment. You're not kidding. I was going to search through them all but just did a quick search on that report and there are 217 "speedway" matches so that is certainly worth a thorough look through  You've touched a nerve there? That's quite an attack for someone who has said that they owe the speedway nothing and it's not mentioned in the local plan. Pretty standard community ignoring rubbish while presenting the argument in the style of Harry Enfield Loadsamoney It's a real hatchet job. You can see where they got the inspiration now to include axe-throwing in their development proposal? Every city needs such a well-being offering for its citizens. If I'd written that guff I'd be looking for a stress reliever |
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Post by bratters on Apr 30, 2024 9:16:55 GMT
Worth remembering that if you pay to commission a report, generally it will say what you want it to.
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Post by admin on Apr 30, 2024 11:43:51 GMT
Worth remembering that if you pay to commission a report, generally it will say what you want it to. And a Kings Lynn address as well - just saying! It same as asking someone to create a poll or survey for you. They ask what outcome do you want I see the add comments e-mail has circulated again as Butterfield needs to up his support quota. All of those photo opps in Cathedral grounds has paid dividends as they've got the church onboard (well 9 of them) to some extent and: Commenter Type: Public Stance: Customer made comments in support Comments:
This will be an amazing space for families, children and adults! This city has long needed something like this as it will bring the community together and provide a lovely green space where the next generation can learn about growing their own food and other life changing skills.Sounds like the definition of Ferry Meadows across the road, ever visited that massive green space. As for the rest, that can be done within the EoES as it is |
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Post by rodders on Apr 30, 2024 11:53:54 GMT
Worth remembering that if you pay to commission a report, generally it will say what you want it to. And a Kings Lynn address as well - just saying! It same as asking someone to create a poll or survey for you. They ask what outcome do you want I see the add comments e-mail has circulated again as Butterfield needs to up his support quota. All of those photo opps in Cathedral grounds has paid dividends as they've got the church onboard (well 9 of them) to some extent and: Commenter Type: Public Stance: Customer made comments in support Comments:
This will be an amazing space for families, children and adults! This city has long needed something like this as it will bring the community together and provide a lovely green space where the next generation can learn about growing their own food and other life changing skills.Sounds like the definition of Ferry Meadows across the road, ever visited that massive green space. As for the rest, that can be done within the EoES as it is .. Seems to me "lovely green space" was already there. Difficult to see how a vast housing estate makes it more green or better. |
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Post by admin on May 1, 2024 9:34:39 GMT
Peterborough Panthers Speedway team remain defiant and target a return to racing in 2025 despite plans for start Showground development within a yearThe consortium fighting for the future of Peterborough Panthers Speedway Club have refused to give up on their former home on the East of England Showground.Despite being told that they must vacate the site at the end of the 2023 season, the club has said that it remains committed to returning Peterborough Speedway to the East of England Showground in 2025. The club was forced out of its home of 53 years by land owners the East of England Agricultural Society to make way for a £50 million leisure village-led development of the Showground. Plans include the construction of a multi-use leisure village and 1,500 homes but include no provision for Speedway. Almost 2000 objections have been sent into to the plans. The development is yet to be approved but land agents AEPG hope to put spades in the ground by the end of the year. AEPG Chief Executive Ashley Butterfield told the Peterborough Telegraph recently that no matter the outcome of the development, Speedway would not be returning to the site. He added: “Even if we don’t get planning permission, there is no way speedway will return to the Showground. "Holding it here was costing the society £70,000 a year. It was making a loss. Its home was never here – the club was only on a monthly renewable tenancy.”  The club consortium has since held a meeting to review its position and challenged the assertions of AEPG. A statement read:“Peterborough Speedway is a profitable and viable business, accounts are freely available for viewing on Companies House. "The East of England Showground has been the home of Peterborough Speedway for 53 years and the club has always enjoyed a yearly season by season rental agreement. “Peterborough Speedway has a rich 53 year heritage during which it has raised Peterborough’s profile throughout the world and is much missed both by the local community and Speedway supporters both in the UK and worldwide "The Grandstand is also currently the subject of an Asset of Community Value application supported by Orton Waterville Parish Council which is currently being considered by Peterborough City Council, the outcome of which is expected imminently. "The seats have been removed and are said to have been donated to a local sports club. The rear of the Grandstand cladding has also been removed. The AEPG management has taken it upon itself to decommission the grandstand. “It is particularly sad to see that there is no Speedway at the East of England Showground this season. The developer’s planning applications are no further forward, have thousands of objections from members of the public and various authorities and organisations. "Speedway could have been held at The East of England Showground in 2024 and beyond. “The Consortium remains committed to opposing AEPG’s planning applications and returning Peterborough Speedway to the East of England Showground in 2025.” full statement borospeedway.proboards.com/post/43178
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Post by admin on May 2, 2024 9:00:26 GMT
I also don't get the alleged business deals? Based on what? Butterfield said that the land sale was subject to planning although I'm sure that I've read that he has allegedly already sold land parcels? So businesses are buying land and doing deals based on fresh air? Either someone is talking utter cobblers or there is a nasty whiff here? Hopefully it's the former. Within the East of England Showground, as defined on the Policies Map, the following uses will be supported in principle, subject to, if the proposal is of a significant scale, an approved masterplan for the Showground: Facilities directly related to the function of shows on the Showground itself; Conference facilities (D1 and D2); Employment related development; Residential development of around 650 dwellings.Proposals for development should not have an unacceptable adverse impact on the surrounding uses (especially on occupiers of nearby residential properties), and all development should ensure that the character of the area is maintained.A comprehensive master plan in advance of, or alongside, any significant proposals will be required and, if approved by the council in advance, this would become a material consideration in the determination of future planning applications. Such a master plan must demonstrate how the functioning Showground will be retained. The loss of any existing leisure and sports facilities will not be supported unless replacement facilities are provided in accordance with policy LP30 And for any newcomers, it's worth a refresh on what that says so that one can see how Butters and Co are trying to get out of any responsibilty on LP30 as they have openly communicated, shown by their action and now provided some text:Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community FacilitiesThe loss, via redevelopment, of an existing culture, leisure, tourism or community facility will only be permitted if it is demonstrated that: k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be redeveloped for a new community facility; l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature of the facility and its associated catchment area; m. The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or greater size in a suitable on or off-site location. |
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