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Post by admin on May 7, 2024 15:19:05 GMT
Saw this referenced yesterday elsewhere and it took my interest as I don't seem to recall it being controversial before? I thought that this leisure led building site was allegedly going to eventually at some future point fill a gap (not a speedway sized gap that it has created to the detriment of Peterborough and it's public and standing) that the city badly needed and couldn't easily be found elsewhere if one cares to look  The company behind the controversial redevelopment of a showground has said the project could create about (and today's guess is  ) 1,000 jobs once completed.AEPG chief executive officer Ashley Butterfield said: "what we are bringing forward is massively supported." - by whom? Forgot to add that that there is significant opposition, hence the controversial headline I guess?The company, which operates the showground on behalf of the East of England Agricultural Society charity, thinks the finished product could add (and today's guess is ) £55m per year to the city's economy. "We are really sad for the speedway fans and that's genuine," said Mr Butterfield. - a previous radio interview says different IMO: AB - our position regarding the speedway stays the same. We admire the passion of the fans, and they most certainly are passionate, but there will be no speedway irrespective of whether or not planning is approved. It's important to make it really clear that AEPG and the EEAS have no obligation to support the Panthers financially, either hosting or finding a new site."But we struggle, if I'm honest, to articulate that speedway will be no longer at the showground - that's because your consultation and communication skills are poor and you've created a problem which a skilful, informed CEO could have avoided and brought all parties on board before negotiating an amicable agreement with Peterborough Speedway's owner/consortiumFull text bbc/local news/regions/Peterborough 2/5/24 |
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Post by admin on May 7, 2024 16:39:57 GMT
AEPG chief executive officer Ashley Butterfield said: "what we are bringing forward is massively supported." And today's gem from the planning portal expanding on that support: Comments were submitted at 04/05/2024 East Of England Showground Comments for Planning Application 23/00400/OUT - Commenter Type: Public Stance: Customer made comments in support but couldn't think of anything intelligent and/or detailed to add! |
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Post by admin on May 8, 2024 17:03:21 GMT
Spotted an interesting letter in Peterborough Today:City MP Paul Bristow has pledged recently in Peterborough Today, that one of his main objectives is to support and do everything possible to ensure that the new Posh stadium gets built, possibly on the Embankment (which will result in the loss of the athletics track and most of the remaining green space). He'll be out soon so this will fall on the Labour bloke and whoever is PCC leaderThe Peterborough Today illustrations showing the stadium superimposed on the embankment are misleading and do not show the true picture of how much green open space will be lost; they exclude car parking, vehicle access, concourse and construction site space requirements. As part of this process and before any decision is made, will Mr Bristow consider: 1) that a replacement like-for-like athletics track would need to be built in the city. This track must be built to the same standard as the current track, being suitable for hosting National League fixtures, with car parking, spectator facilities etc. - sounds familiar!2) that the Posh stadium owners must pay a fair price to PCC and the city for the embankment, or any other land used. The drastic cuts to cancel funding made by Mr Bristow's Conservative government, and during his time in office, have led to Peterborough City Council being cash-strapped and in need of maximising returns from land sales.Posh and their owners are private enterprises, which pay their directors a six-figure salary. It is only proper and fair that Peterborough citizens are suitably reimbursed.
I suspect that most of us have heard suggestions over the years that the EoES is a good place for POSH to re-locate: speedway, football and axe-throwing all in a single location next to the A1. Those affordable houses could then be built in a central location next to Fletton Quays - win, win all round 
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Post by admin on May 9, 2024 22:31:53 GMT
Seems to me "lovely green space" was already there. Difficult to see how a vast housing estate makes it more green or better. on recreational impacts on nature sites. The provision of only 18 Ha of greenspace is significantly below what should be provided for a development of this size. Natural England has identified that the provision of 8 Ha per 1,000 population of Suitable Alternative Natural Greenspace (SANG) is the order of magnitude required to help avoid displacement of recreational activity elsewhere and potential impacts on other nearby accessible nature sites. 1,500 homes equates to a new population of approximately 3,600 people at this site.Taking the Natural England figure for SANGs, would require green infrastructure provision of 28 Ha at this site. There is therefore a high probability that the green infrastructure will be insufficient to meet the everyday needs of the new residents of this development. This is what gives rise to the possibility of adverse impacts elsewhere. This is not a matter than can be left to condition. If the proposed number of houses is “over-development” that cannot avoid adverse impacts on other nature sites within the District, then the development would be unsustainable and so in principle should be refused.It is therefore incumbent of the applicant to demonstrate how adverse impacts on other nature sites will be avoided, either through the design of this development including provision of sufficient high quality green infrastructure or through reasonable off-site mitigation measures. The applicants should demonstrate how they will meet Natural England’s guidance (set out in the Natural England response of 5th September 2023) in terms of the quantity and design of green infrastructure (e.g. provision of suitable lengths of walking routes and other facilities essential to everyday recreational activities and good green infrastructure design) to be able to avoid or fully mitigate potential adverse impacts. This matter must be addressed before the principle of development is accepted. The Wildlife Trust is therefore not willing to remove our objection at this stage. |
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Post by admin on May 14, 2024 9:55:23 GMT
Peterborough Speedway Consortium Update April 2024The Consortium fighting to retain Speedway at the East of England Showground met at the headquarters of The City Auction Group in Orton Southgate on Monday 22 April 2024 to review their current position, including the successful opposition to development plans for Coventry Speedway Stadium and to make plans for the future. As a result of the meeting it was felt that a number of issues needed clarification for Peterborough Speedway supporters. A press release from AEPG last year stated that the then incumbent Peterborough Speedway Promotion had taken it upon themselves to remove the Speedway track, safety fence and pits outbuildings from the East of England Showground. This is incorrect. Although potential removal of Speedway equipment has always been listed in every rental agreement, it should be pointed out that these actions were taken under direct instructions from AEPG’s Asset Manager. We are also aware that the AEPG management has taken it upon itself to decommission the Grandstand. The seats have been removed and are said to have been donated to a local sports club. The rear of the Grandstand cladding has also been removed. It is worth noting that the Grandstand is currently the subject of an Asset of Community Value application supported by Orton Waterville Parish Council which is currently being considered by Peterborough City Council, the outcome of which is expected imminently. The Consortium is keen to respond to a number of misleading suggestions about the planning applications and the position of Speedway at the East of England Showground. The failure of AEPG to submit a local and national policy compliant planning application is at the heart of our campaign. The Peterborough Local Plan (LP30/LP36) requires that sporting facilities at risk to development should be replaced. The National Planning Policy Framework republished by the government as recently as December 2023 protects sporting facilities at risk from development. Arguments raised by AEPG in an attempt to avoid local and national policies are the same arguments raised in favour of development in the Coventry Stadium Planning Appeal and which were rejected by the Planning Inspector thereby putting a stop to development plans which would have seen the loss of a Speedway track. Whenever required we will work to ensure that the reasons behind the successful opposition to the Coventry Stadium development plans are applied to the East of England Showground and AEPG’s applications. It is particularly sad to see that there is no Speedway at the East of England Showground this season. The developer’s planning applications are no further forward, have thousands of objections from members of the public and various authorities and organisations. Speedway could have been held at The East of England Showground in 2024 and beyond. The developer’s suggested timetable for sale and building on the East of England Showground ignores its policy compliance failures and is, in our view, no more than ‘pie in the sky’. In response to Ashley Butterfield’s comments on the Peterborough Today website on 24th April 2024, the financial figure he quotes is a complete fabrication. Peterborough Speedway is a profitable and viable business, accounts are freely available for viewing on Companies House. The East of England Showground has been the home of Peterborough Speedway for 53 years and the club has always enjoyed a yearly season by season rental agreement. Peterborough Speedway has a rich 53 year heritage during which it has raised Peterborough’s profile throughout the world and is much missed both by the local community and Speedway supporters both in the U.K. and worldwide. The Consortium remains committed to opposing AEPG’s planning applications and returning Peterborough Speedway to the East of England Showground in 2025. Just clocked Peterborough Today and how this was reported. I like the way that it was done here   |
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Post by admin on May 14, 2024 10:19:48 GMT
23/00412/OUT Representation from Consultee (Web) Tree Officer's comments 13/05/2024
"further to our recent conversation it does not appear that the requested detail has been submitted"
Recommendation: Objection, on arboricultural/landscape grounds.
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Post by bratters on May 15, 2024 18:34:32 GMT
But 500 1000 new jobs, axe throwing, padel (wtf) and £500 million trillion billion every day to the local economy.
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Post by admin on May 15, 2024 22:45:34 GMT
I can’t really add too much to that. Other than Mr Butterfields statements really peed me off. “Its home was never here”! That just sums this person up in a nutshell 🤬 Bratters post above prompted me to have a quick look at the four AEPG alleged key reports. I think that I may have spotted how someone without a clue might have arrived at such guff? "The showground is owned by the East of England Agricultural Society (EEAS). EEAS has a history in the Peterborough area since 1797 and established the showground in the 1960s. As a charity EEAS has a duty to deliver their charitable objectives in agriculture, the rural community and education.
From 1968 to 2012 EEAS primarily delivered their objectives by holding their annual summer show at the Showground, which regularly attracted 160,000 visitors in the 1990s (Chief executive of the society, Jeremy Staples, said: "At its height of popularity the show would have attracted about 100,000 people (BBC May 2013)), but declined in the new Millenium and ended in 2012 when it became unviable after only 10,000 people attended.(missing some detail: "Last year's show took four months to put on and with fewer than 10,000 people, it clearly wasn't appealing to the local population," Mr Staples said. The 2012 show was dogged by wet weather which may have been a contributing factor, he admitted (BBC May 2013).The showground subsequently evolved into an events centre primarily for external events and sports including Speedway."Doesn't give one much confidence in the detail, theory and future predictions made by AEPG/Collison in their reports does it? Pretty basic schoolboy errors there if I've read it right? |
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Post by admin on May 19, 2024 20:03:03 GMT
Speedway protesters opposed to a planned redevelopment of the East of England Showground that has been home to a motorcycle racetrack for 50 years have been branded as a ‘selfish, small cohort’.The criticism was made by Ashley Butterfield, chief executive of land promoter AEPG, who told a meeting of business people in Peterborough today, (May 17) that speedway at the Showground was simply not commercially or operationally viable. Fans of Peterborough Panthers speedway club have been angered that the £50 million leisure-village and 1,500 homes development proposals for the 64 acre Showground site has meant the end of speedway racing at the site after 50 seasons, during which the club win top honours. Hundreds of objections to AEPG’s outline planning proposals have been submitted to Peterborough City Council with many from speedway fans opposed to the loss of the race track. Why does AEPG say its plans are good for Peterborough? usual guff that you can read on: peterboroughtoday/speedway-protesters-branded-as-a-selfish-small-cohort-trying-to-put-brake-on-peterborough-showground-development 17/5/24, should you so wish. Just a couple of points of interest from there:Mr Butterfield told the meeting of Opportunity Peterborough’s Bondholder meeting - who are they  that the city was massively under-served in terms of health, fitness, leisure and active lifestyle facilities. - evidence for that What is the overlap with Great Haddon (Once finished, Great Haddon is expected to provide 5,350 homes, 9,000 jobs, four schools, three shopping centres and sports facilities), the Nene Park climbing wall and activity centre, other developments in the city both now and in the 12 years when this development comes on line should it ever unfortunately see the light of day in an unchanged format? - anyone any good with an AI comparison tool? - the development, which could take 12 years to complete!
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Post by rodders on May 20, 2024 15:34:07 GMT
What do you all think? I have to believe that when developers talk about new homes it is a euphemism for houses, as the term homes makes it see less avaricious and greedy.
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Post by admin on May 20, 2024 16:19:35 GMT
What do you all think? I have to believe that when developers talk about new homes it is a euphemism for houses, as the term homes makes it see less avaricious and greedy. Yup, words are important as is the ability to see through them to the reality. |
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Post by admin on May 20, 2024 16:53:46 GMT
Pick the bones out of that lot: There is a bit on the recordings about this being a consultation that is open for a couple of weeks or so? If that's the case then I would expect that we would have heard more from the consortium and/or official sources? Surely it's been open for months and AEPG have been allegedly pretty well tone deaf to the concerns of locals? Kevin Lawrence meeting with Ashley Butterfield at East of England Showground offices (there were a couple of interviews out there but this is the gist of both (although not verbatim), as well as a recording on the AEPG Facebook page (with closed comments in a spirit of open and transparent discourse!):KL - here I am standing in front of map of what the Showground could potentially look like in 7 years' time. AB - after two years of working with the City Council, ward councillors and working with the local community, this is a massive step forward. Everybody has had an opportunity to comment. Traffic, ecology and public services are all well catered for. KL -if we talk generally, it's houses but so much more? What is the East of England Showground going to become in the next 5 to 10 years if these plans are approved? AB - the entire site of 164 acres is owned by the East of England Agricultural Society, the overall site and master plan is made up of houses as you say, 1500 houses, 650 in the allocation and then a further approximately 800 coupled in the planning application with 50 acres of amazing leisure facilities. KL - so its leisure led? AB - yes, it's a leisure led development. With the addition of a 250 bed hotel. The existing Arena (that is well known and loved within the city he claimed) will be significantly upgraded to make it a world-class facility. Health, fitness, care for the elderly, sports pitches and generally active leisure of varying descriptions). - They had a bit of a discussion about this and other associated items but it was basically just a noise! - Add in a 280 bed care home (C2 supported care) and a technology driven driving range! KL raised the question regarding getting in and out on this development should it ever be approved. Butterfield said that they had done a huge amount of work on this issue and that traffic assessments suggest that impact will not be great or cause any adverse congestion or impacts in the the area. KL - as I look at the master plan, and taken from the press release, what about the green and sustainable credentials? AB - it is really super important that the site is sustainable through the housebuilding, through the drainage system, through the power and the systems that we use. We will not not be using gas anywhere on the sight at all - this applies to the leisure aspect as well - an additional bit of waffle here about that being important to the city and the climate credentials of PCC. KL - what about the economic impact? AB - we have currently undertaken and economic impact assessment for the whole development and we believe that this will show an impact that will be substantially positive in both financial terms and in job creation. We will be sharing these once we have the findings of this report. Butterfield also referred to the economic impact assessment by Collisons that lives on the planning Portal. KL - how will you address the concerns of Julie Stevenson regarding infrastructure, density of housing and not enough roads? AB - (this was the comedy gold part of the interview) - he said that the proposed development will cause less traffic and congestion than the infrequent events that have taken place at the Showground previously (my wording, but that is the gist of what he said). KL - what is your answer to many people around the city who are sad to see what's happening at the Showground and have concerns about the effects on local tourism and that it will discourage people from attending the city and therefore have a negative effect on Peterborough? AB - completely the opposite he said, and then just waffled a bit without challenge. KL - the SPEEDWAY will clearly have to find a new home? Other events etc have to find a new home, what would you say to those people in Peterborough and elsewhere concerned about that? When the plans were first drawn up and this whole idea initially kicked off, what help did you give the speedway team and how much notice did you give them? What future is there for the speedway team although I understand it's not directly you're problem.
AB - this site has always been earmarked for development for a very long time? We are supporting all of those events needing to find a new home! We have worked really closely with the speedway team and its owners, opened dialogue and been transparent about the plans for the future and they have known about the situation regarding the site.
AB - our position regarding the speedway stays the same. We admire the passion of the fans, and they most certainly are passionate, but there will be no speedway irrespective of whether or not planning is approved. It's important to make it really clear that AEPG and the EEAS have no obligation to support the Panthers financially, either hosting or finding a new site.KL what about the local plan and LP 36 and LP 30 (only joking, he didn't actually challenge Butterfield on his statement - in fact the local plan was never mentioned, that I heard, even in the allocation of houses because it only covers the 650).AB - the really important fact that is not understood is that the speedway is not viable commercially and has been for many years subsidised by the charity, and now AEPG. The speedway is expensive and no longer sustainable
KL - what about the bigger picture of when all of this is likely to happen and what impacts will it have on the wider city? AB - it will have a huge impact on the wider city. The fiscal impact with 500 to 600 new jobs, multi generational jobs for everybody, as well as the impact on lifestyle and this development being a gateway to Peterborough. This will put Peterborough on the map for positive reasons and bring new industries into the economy and really drive Peterborough as a whole. KL - green space is very important. There is a large amount of green space on the site. Now I need to maintain all of this green space despite a lot of buildings and associated work going on? AB - this is private land sale and not technically termed as green space that the public can use at the moment. That will change with the development and removal of these security fences. We are in discussion with local environmental experts/agencies and associated organisations on all of the issues mentioned. Active leisure and community living is so important to us! KL - so we have entered a period of consultation and you would like to hear thoughts from people who live locally about this plan (it's all out there apparently). What would be your message be to people listening regarding feedback and what people think of your plans? What is the consultation process all about? AB - it is to speak to us: open dialogue, to really view your thoughts, to discuss, to consider, to review the presentations and information (live on the planning Portal). Everything is there. It's an open book and transparent. The door is always open so please come and speak to us during this consultation. KL - what about the concerns of residents nearby about all this going happening on their doorstep? Not sure that AB got that bit as he just went off on a tangent with their favoured narrative about lack of facilities in Peterborough that in his opinion this unwanted development will allegedly provide? Also how, in his opinion, this fits in with the council's health and wellness strategy? KL did mention the Facebook page but neglected to mention restricted access or comments turned off (not to mention deleted posts). end Kevin Lawrence: There’s been a lot in the news recently about the EoES plans/development and what it looks like from a leisure and housing perspective. Information was published on the PT website and now you put out a number of documents on the PCC Planning Portal, so where are you today on these developments? Ashley Butterfield: "Really exciting times moving forward at pace with the East of England Showground development": and he then referenced the four project documents which have been placed on the PCC planning Portal which he says inform people about the facts regarding the development, its timeline and the context/reasoning behind it. KL: I'm going to ask in a moment about some of the detail around the leisure led activities, but let's deal with some of the negativity that has been received in recent weeks with lots of people mentioning their sadness at the speedway (or lack of in his case); let's just focus on that for one moment and hear your comments for people unhappy at the lack of speedway in these plans.
AB: We are really sad for the speedway fans, and that’s genuine, but we struggle to articulate that speedway will no longer be at the Showground. It's not viable for the East of England Showground trustees, and as a charity to operate the speedway. Regardless of planning, speedway will not be here going forward and we're really sad.
AB: But we'd really like to understand what the speedway community are doing to find a new home? Is that with PCC or on their own merit as a private organisation? What are they doing and is there anything that we can do to help? But it is no longer at the East of England Showground and we're very sorry for them.
KL 53 years of history so there are going to be people upset, but your position is that it is private land, the lines have been drawn in as outlined above but they still keep going on about why they are not happy. - that bit really irritated me and showed his ignorance. Second interview and once again never mentioned the local plan (LP36 & 30) or the fact that only part of the project is allocated within it AB: Absolutely Kev (and he couldn't wait to get off topic and move on). AB: I would like to draw attention to the leisure and community impact assessment report which thoroughly explains the facts about the speedway and much much more about how we are bringing forward and amazing sports, amazing activities, amazing lifestyle and community facilities for tens of thousands of people in the Peterborough city area. (word of the day: "amazing")KL I've got the document in front of me now. The activities are different from the speedway and will provide activity for tens of thousands of people? AB we have huge support and hear about the loss of speedway. Our empathy and sadness for the speedway fans is there but what we're bringing forward is massively supported. KL what about the sadness around other key events being lost? What would you say to those who say that the loss of the East of England Showground is a loss to the city? Butterfield trotted out the usual mantra about viability attendances and weather etc. KL There have been hundreds and hundreds of objections from speedway and I don't want to go there again (I think it's more like thousands actually?), But what organisations are supportive? AB Living Sports Peterborough, Peterborough Citizens and other charities, along with the Great Eastern Run.  |
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Post by admin on May 20, 2024 17:17:23 GMT
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Post by bratters on May 20, 2024 18:47:20 GMT
I think we need to be clear, as things stand PCC are neither willing nor not willing to destroy the Showground, we don’t know, and as I have said many times in the past, this whole situation is a watershed moment for PCC. AEPG and their fantasist mouthpiece are very much willing to destroy the Showground for financial gain to themselves and the EoEAS. |
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Post by admin on May 20, 2024 21:59:03 GMT
AB: But we'd really like to understand what the speedway community are doing to find a new home? Is that with PCC or on their own merit as a private organisation? What are they doing and is there anything that we can do to help? But it is no longer at the East of England Showground and we're very sorry for them. Interesting? From: Alistair Beattie August 2023 - With the programme of major outdoor events ending on the site in July, AEPG no longer have staff to keep the site open. I believe that AEPG may have had discussions with the current speedway operators as well as the local authority regarding the possibility of relocating to another site, but I am not sure whether this has been progressed. |
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Post by admin on May 21, 2024 17:14:35 GMT
Make sure that you are not eating or drinking before you watch this. It could get very messy as you spit the food or drink out in disgust  Peterborough speedway protesters branded 'selfish'Opportunity Peterborough was founded in 2005 as an urban regeneration company. Five years later our remit evolved to lead the city’s economic development and inward investment activity. We’re a private not-for-profit business, wholly owned by Peterborough City Council.Peterborough’s Bondholder network is made up of a diverse and vibrant mix of companies operating across a range of business sectors. They’re companies that want to see Peterborough’s economy flourish, and they want to be part of its success. Tough crowd  - including the funny bloke who chipped in with "that's what people do" - what's that then mate, do explain! |
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Post by rodders on May 21, 2024 17:46:40 GMT
If what Butterfield is saying is correct EOES was not charging sufficient rent to the Speedway promotion, although EOES had control of income from Bar and food outlets. Speedway promotion relying totally on gate receipts. Can we have a response from the consortium about this.
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Post by admin on May 21, 2024 20:04:24 GMT
If what Butterfield is saying is correct EOES was not charging sufficient rent to the Speedway promotion, although EOES had control of income from Bar and food outlets. Speedway promotion relying totally on gate receipts. Can we have a response from the consortium about this. My understanding Rodders is that they are working on a response and it will be released in the not too distant future, so just hang fire for a bit and hopefully that response, or at least something dealing Butterfield's fantasy, will be forthcoming |
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Post by admin on May 21, 2024 23:33:55 GMT
I think we need to be clear, as things stand PCC are neither willing nor not willing to destroy the Showground, we don’t know, and as I have said many times in the past, this whole situation is a watershed moment for PCC. AEPG and their fantasist mouthpiece are very much willing to destroy the Showground for financial gain to themselves and the EoEAS. It is and worth noting that that's the third such presentation (two were radio interviews) by Butterfield and at no time has the local plan been mentioned in terms of less than half of the project being allocated within it or AEPG's responsibilities within LP36 & 30, despite their best efforts to wreck the speedway infrastructure that was handed over to them in perfect working order. Their desire to deflect from that onto different issues should indicate where their weakness is. Asking the Peterborough’s Bondholder network (Opportunity Peterborough, wholly owned by Peterborough City Council) to send a letter of support whilst claiming that the project has massive support from approx 25% towards 50% of the Peterborough public |
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Post by bratters on May 22, 2024 12:34:58 GMT
If what Butterfield is saying is correct EOES was not charging sufficient rent to the Speedway promotion, although EOES had control of income from Bar and food outlets. Speedway promotion relying totally on gate receipts. Can we have a response from the consortium about this. My understanding Rodders is that they are working on a response and it will be released in the not too distant future, so just hang fire for a bit and hopefully that response, or at least something dealing Butterfield's fantasy, will be forthcoming No need for a response on that, it’s a total lie. Why would an organisation subsidise any business for 53 years? Speedway everywhere is reliant on gate receipts, sponsorship and TV income, SOME tracks also rely on income from food and bar outlets. However, a consortium statement is imminent. |
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Post by rodders on May 22, 2024 13:55:10 GMT
My understanding Rodders is that they are working on a response and it will be released in the not too distant future, so just hang fire for a bit and hopefully that response, or at least something dealing Butterfield's fantasy, will be forthcoming No need for a response on that, it’s a total lie. Why would an organisation subsidise any business for 53 years? Speedway everywhere is reliant on gate receipts, sponsorship and TV income, SOME tracks also rely on income from food and bar outlets. However, a consortium statement is imminent. That is axiomatic and why I asked the question |
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Post by admin on May 22, 2024 15:05:25 GMT
Make sure that you are not eating or drinking before you watch this. It could get very messy as you spit the food or drink out in disgust Peterborough speedway protesters branded 'selfish'Opportunity Peterborough was founded in 2005 as an urban regeneration company. Five years later our remit evolved to lead the city’s economic development and inward investment activity. We’re a private not-for-profit business, wholly owned by Peterborough City Council.Peterborough’s Bondholder network is made up of a diverse and vibrant mix of companies operating across a range of business sectors. They’re companies that want to see Peterborough’s economy flourish, and they want to be part of its success. Tough crowd - including the funny bloke who chipped in with "that's what people do" - what's that then mate, do explain!That went down well! I thought those hoards of supporters had had a field day on the planning portal under planning application 23/00412/OUT? However, it's 24 new objections from real people and not those who send a letter thinking that they speak for all of their flock  |
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Post by admin on May 22, 2024 15:53:38 GMT
However, a consortium statement is imminent. It looks like Butterfield wants a business case, if I've guessed correctly the missing words on this article that doesn't appear yet on the PT website that I can see?  It's all money with that bloke! Community, culture, Peterborough history and profile are an afterthought. |
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Post by rodders on May 22, 2024 16:55:49 GMT
I think that it should be born in mind that we selfish people are not trying to destroy the development but to preserve Speedway, quite happy for development to go ahead if a way is found to preserve Speedway. On the other hand it is intrinsic in Butterfields plans to destroy Speedway, for avaricious purposes.
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Post by rodders on May 22, 2024 18:32:06 GMT
Despite claims re profit and loss, finance etc, Butterfield's thing against Speedway can be encapsulated in his remark "who is going to buy a house near a Speedway Track" may be true but plenty of people have.
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) 1,000 jobs once completed.
- including the funny bloke who chipped in with "that's what people do" - what's that then mate, do explain!