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Post by rodders on Jul 7, 2023 21:10:53 GMT
A less than satisfactory statement from the club!!! What are the issues at Adrian Flux Arena? Enigmatic comments from Chris Louis on BSF. Thought we could not run without a promoter.Have sympathy for Carl set up to take the flak, but never had any real authority.
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Post by rodders on Jul 10, 2023 12:51:37 GMT
According to Neil Watson on BSF a promoters license applies only to a specific club. With CJ resigning and being listed as sole promoter of Panthers it is difficult to see how Panthers can continue. They may of course invoke the usual magic rule where anything goes if BSPA perceive it as being for the good of Speedway. Think CJ has made it clear why and who made him resign
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Post by rodders on Jul 12, 2023 15:49:03 GMT
Suggestions on BSF that Barker in to replace Tarasenko.
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Post by admin on Jul 12, 2023 16:23:51 GMT
Suggestions on BSF that Barker in to replace Tarasenko. What, permanent or just for the Sheffield defeat? And for what reason?
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 12, 2023 16:58:22 GMT
Suggestions on BSF that Barker in to replace Tarasenko. Phil the Ace is another wind up merchant, a bit like Flappy
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Post by chrise on Jul 16, 2023 16:30:10 GMT
Just seen Rob Lyon and Hans not bothering to turn up at Monmore tomorrow. Laurence Rogers is guest team manager. What a an absolute insult this is to British speedway. We were once a respected club but our illustrious owner from up the A47 has turned our club into an absolute laughing stock. Supporters now need to protest and boycott all further meetings. This may mean the end of the club but the silver lining being the owner has to rely on government PENSION CREDIT to fund his retirement.
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 16, 2023 18:44:51 GMT
Just seen Rob Lyon and Hans not bothering to turn up at Monmore tomorrow. Laurence Rogers is guest team manager. What a an absolute insult this is to British speedway. We were once a respected club but our illustrious owner from up the A47 has turned our club into an absolute laughing stock. Supporters now need to protest and boycott all further meetings. This may mean the end of the club but the silver lining being the owner has to rely on government PENSION CREDIT to fund his retirement. Rob Lyon has got a long standing holiday booked so no problem with that. Boycotting matches will seriously damage the club, we need to continue support and finish the season and beyond if we want the club to survive and most of us do. Chapman is rich enough to fund his retirement on his own he certainly doesn’t need any help from the government.
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Post by chrise on Jul 16, 2023 19:39:39 GMT
Just seen Rob Lyon and Hans not bothering to turn up at Monmore tomorrow. Laurence Rogers is guest team manager. What a an absolute insult this is to British speedway. We were once a respected club but our illustrious owner from up the A47 has turned our club into an absolute laughing stock. Supporters now need to protest and boycott all further meetings. This may mean the end of the club but the silver lining being the owner has to rely on government PENSION CREDIT to fund his retirement. Rob Lyon has got a long standing holiday booked so no problem with that. Boycotting matches will seriously damage the club, we need to continue support and finish the season and beyond if we want the club to survive and most of us do. Chapman is rich enough to fund his retirement on his own he certainly doesn’t need any help from the government. Chapman and the BSPA have damaged British Speedway beyond repair. If by some miracle we survive to the end of the season what will next season look like ? Many clubs are struggling financially or have their home tracks under threat of redevelopment. Keep saying support the current management will not cut the mustard any longer. Major restructuring of the sport is required now. The current business model is not sustainable and the does not offer value for money for the majority of supporters. Everybody needs to look at the bigger picture if the sport is to survive in any form.
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Post by Hodgy on Jul 16, 2023 19:41:19 GMT
Just seen Rob Lyon and Hans not bothering to turn up at Monmore tomorrow. Laurence Rogers is guest team manager. What a an absolute insult this is to British speedway. We were once a respected club but our illustrious owner from up the A47 has turned our club into an absolute laughing stock. Supporters now need to protest and boycott all further meetings. This may mean the end of the club but the silver lining being the owner has to rely on government PENSION CREDIT to fund his retirement. Rob Lyon has got a long standing holiday booked so no problem with that. Can’t agree with that. You sign for the season, you sign for the season.Boycotting matches will seriously damage the club, we need to continue support and finish the season and beyond if we want the club to survive and most of us do. Absolutely agree. Boycotting will damage the club. Although it’s understandable. I do understand why there is a lack of interest. We are in an embarrassing mess.Chapman is rich enough to fund his retirement on his own he certainly doesn’t need any help from the government. I wish he would go, enjoy ‘the rich retirement’. He’s F’d up two clubs (and their tracks) in one / two season(s) because of his arrogance. I don’t want to hear the saving of clubs when he was the main man. A legacy to be proud of.
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 16, 2023 21:13:17 GMT
Just seen Rob Lyon and Hans not bothering to turn up at Monmore tomorrow. Laurence Rogers is guest team manager. What a an absolute insult this is to British speedway. We were once a respected club but our illustrious owner from up the A47 has turned our club into an absolute laughing stock. Supporters now need to protest and boycott all further meetings. This may mean the end of the club but the silver lining being the owner has to rely on government PENSION CREDIT to fund his retirement. Rob Lyon has got a long standing holiday booked so no problem with that. Can’t agree with that. You sign for the season, you sign for the season. Boycotting matches will seriously damage the club, we need to continue support and finish the season and beyond if we want the club to survive and most of us do. Absolutely agree. Boycotting will damage the club. Although it’s understandable. I do understand why there is a lack of interest. We are in an embarrassing mess.
Chapman is rich enough to fund his retirement on his own he certainly doesn’t need any help from the government. I wish he would go, enjoy ‘the rich retirement’. He’s F’d up two clubs (and their tracks) in one / two season(s) because of his arrogance. I don’t want to hear the saving of clubs when he was the main man. A legacy to be proud of. Yes but he didn’t sign for the season, until the day before press and practice he didn’t have a job, he was asked to return after being told during the winter his services were not required this year, so understandably he made other arrangements. Personally I think that’s reasonable.
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Post by Hodgy on Jul 17, 2023 9:16:56 GMT
Rob Lyon has got a long standing holiday booked so no problem with that. Can’t agree with that. You sign for the season, you sign for the season. Boycotting matches will seriously damage the club, we need to continue support and finish the season and beyond if we want the club to survive and most of us do. Absolutely agree. Boycotting will damage the club. Although it’s understandable. I do understand why there is a lack of interest. We are in an embarrassing mess.
Chapman is rich enough to fund his retirement on his own he certainly doesn’t need any help from the government. I wish he would go, enjoy ‘the rich retirement’. He’s F’d up two clubs (and their tracks) in one / two season(s) because of his arrogance. I don’t want to hear the saving of clubs when he was the main man. A legacy to be proud of. Yes but he didn’t sign for the season, until the day before press and practice he didn’t have a job, he was asked to return after being told during the winter his services were not required this year, so understandably he made other arrangements. Personally I think that’s reasonable. I don’t recall that - but if it is as you say then yes that’s reasonable.
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 17, 2023 9:41:52 GMT
Yes but he didn’t sign for the season, until the day before press and practice he didn’t have a job, he was asked to return after being told during the winter his services were not required this year, so understandably he made other arrangements. Personally I think that’s reasonable. I don’t recall that - but if it is as you say then yes that’s reasonable. I spoke with Rob Lyon at the first match and he told me the story.
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Post by arthursleep on Jul 17, 2023 12:11:38 GMT
Just seen Rob Lyon and Hans not bothering to turn up at Monmore tomorrow. Laurence Rogers is guest team manager. What a an absolute insult this is to British speedway. We were once a respected club but our illustrious owner from up the A47 has turned our club into an absolute laughing stock. Supporters now need to protest and boycott all further meetings. This may mean the end of the club but the silver lining being the owner has to rely on government PENSION CREDIT to fund his retirement. Rob Lyon has got a long standing holiday booked so no problem with that. Boycotting matches will seriously damage the club, we need to continue support and finish the season and beyond if we want the club to survive and most of us do. Chapman is rich enough to fund his retirement on his own he certainly doesn’t need any help from the government. there’s plenty off people doing enough damage to the club,I haven’t given chapman a penny since he’s been taking the mick . No way I’m forking out to watch that cack and I ain’t missed it 1 bit .
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Post by bratters on Jul 17, 2023 12:50:23 GMT
It’s a rearranged fixture and Rob Lyon already had a holiday booked for this week.
Hans was injured whilst practicing in Denmark on Saturday morning, he has been advised to rest for seven days and a doctors certificate has been provided.
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 17, 2023 18:44:44 GMT
Rob Lyon has got a long standing holiday booked so no problem with that. Boycotting matches will seriously damage the club, we need to continue support and finish the season and beyond if we want the club to survive and most of us do. Chapman is rich enough to fund his retirement on his own he certainly doesn’t need any help from the government. there’s plenty off people doing enough damage to the club,I haven’t given chapman a penny since he’s been taking the mick . No way I’m forking out to watch that cack and I ain’t missed it 1 bit . I well remember A few Oxford fans saying the same when Colin Horton owned the club, they were shut down for 15 years before they got it back again.
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Post by rodders on Jul 21, 2023 15:01:18 GMT
KL have new signing!!! Usual inertia from Panthers.
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Post by rodders on Jul 23, 2023 19:38:29 GMT
As has been hinted at on other forums I for one get the feeling that current showground owners are deliberately making things as difficult as posible for Speedway or indeed any event that does not suit their agenda. Clearly not to blame for the rain but are responsible for wilful neglect of the outside areas of showground making it difficult to run a meeting even should rain abate.
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Post by admin on Jul 23, 2023 20:58:07 GMT
As has been hinted at on other forums I for one get the feeling that current showground owners are deliberately making things as difficult as posible for Speedway or indeed any event that does not suit their agenda. Clearly not to blame for the rain but are responsible for wilful neglect of the outside areas of showground making it difficult to run a meeting even should rain abate. Yes that is a real potential problem now. The EoES is nothing more than a gigantic car park and AEPG have no need to keep it in good order now that all events, apart from us, have moved.
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jul 24, 2023 10:06:47 GMT
As has been hinted at on other forums I for one get the feeling that current showground owners are deliberately making things as difficult as posible for Speedway or indeed any event that does not suit their agenda. Clearly not to blame for the rain but are responsible for wilful neglect of the outside areas of showground making it difficult to run a meeting even should rain abate. Nothing feeling about it, it’s a fact they are making things very difficult, what surprises me is the management are saying nothing either, I do wonder if their is a reason for this but it’s not good either way
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Post by rodders on Jul 24, 2023 18:17:44 GMT
As has been hinted at on other forums I for one get the feeling that current showground owners are deliberately making things as difficult as posible for Speedway or indeed any event that does not suit their agenda. Clearly not to blame for the rain but are responsible for wilful neglect of the outside areas of showground making it difficult to run a meeting even should rain abate. Nothing feeling about it, it’s a fact they are making things very difficult, what surprises me is the management are saying nothing either, I do wonder if their is a reason for this but it’s not good either way I am beginning to have doubts as to whether Panthers will even complete the season!!! I think it is now 3 meetings that need to be re arranged. I had until recently a faint hope that we would at least get one more season at showground , although it seems axiomatic to me that the future if any for Panthers is at a different venue. However the management whoever they may be do not seem to give a stuff, and those presently in charge of showground seem determined that nothing will deter them from proceeding with their avaricious plans. I travel from Cambridge for every meeting and they are now making people queue not only to get into the stadium but even the peripheries of the showground probably hoping that people will get fed up and not bother again. I hope Panthers gain an enlightened management who have more than verbosity to offer and have a plan for Panthers to continue albeit at a different venue. I also cant help feeling a desire that those trying to force the development through fall flat on their faces.
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Post by admin on Jul 25, 2023 8:56:24 GMT
As has been hinted at on other forums I for one get the feeling that current showground owners are deliberately making things as difficult as posible for Speedway or indeed any event that does not suit their agenda. Clearly not to blame for the rain but are responsible for wilful neglect of the outside areas of showground making it difficult to run a meeting even should rain abate. Nothing feeling about it, it’s a fact they are making things very difficult, what surprises me is the management are saying nothing either, I do wonder if their is a reason for this but it’s not good either way I've been concerned all along that part of the deal for a 2023 season was that we'd not make a fuss and go quietly (although if Tomlin was allegedly involved in those negotiations then that seems a little far fetched without an alternative). That would explain management's silence, Johnson waving the white flag every time that he spoke, and, more disappointingly, the complete lack of action from the supporters club (the clue is in the title). Although given their links with Johnson then their inaction isn't perhaps surprising? If they had anything about them they'd have compiled a template that supporters could print off or request (by s.a.e) to send to local councillors and MPs. I think that we're long past the point of upsetting AEPG as they clearly don't give a stuff about us and just want us gone. Time is so late now that the only hope IMO is to pressure the council and MPs to stick to the fact of LP30 being adhered to. Another unpleasant thought is that part of that 2023 agreement was that Kings Lynn (under Chapman) was agreed to be an alternative provision within reasonable proximity for Panthers to relocate to?
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Post by bratters on Jul 25, 2023 9:31:26 GMT
The £50m leisure complex development where the developers have sacked most of the Showground staff, sold most of the equipment and now can’t afford to even cut the grass, with planning permission for their development seemingly years away. The approach to the Showground on Joseph Odam Way to the left now looks like a jungle. Inside the Showground the grass is getting so long it holds so much water you can’t park on it. The hard standing car park being used for car storage and maintenance for a venture that as yet has no planning permission. The Speedway club now having to cut the grass around the track so spectators can stand there. Absolutely ridiculous, who the hell exactly have the East of England Agricultural Society (Showground owners) got into bed with here? If you feel as pissed off as I do (also as a resident locally) you can email the Interim Chief Executive Officer, Alistair Beattie of the East of England Agricultural Society at Alistair@eastofengland.org.uk and ask him to instruct his tenants to shape up.
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Post by admin on Jul 25, 2023 9:55:25 GMT
The £50m leisure complex development where the developers have sacked most of the Showground staff, sold most of the equipment and now can’t afford to even cut the grass, with planning permission for their development seemingly years away. The approach to the Showground on Joseph Odam Way to the left now looks like a jungle. Inside the Showground the grass is getting so long it holds so much water you can’t park on it. The hard standing car park being used for car storage and maintenance for a venture that as yet has no planning permission. The Speedway club now having to cut the grass around the track so spectators can stand there. Absolutely ridiculous, who the hell exactly have the East of England Agricultural Society (Showground owners) got into bed with here? If you feel as pissed off as I do (also as a resident locally) you can email the Interim Chief Executive Officer, Alistair Beattie of the East of England Agricultural Society at Alistair@eastofengland.org.uk and ask him to instruct his tenants to shape up. I've opened up the thread for all to see as this deserves a wider audience. Obviously I can't confirm the accuracy of those points as detailed but register and rebut if you disagree.
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Post by rodders on Jul 25, 2023 12:53:40 GMT
The £50m leisure complex development where the developers have sacked most of the Showground staff, sold most of the equipment and now can’t afford to even cut the grass, with planning permission for their development seemingly years away. The approach to the Showground on Joseph Odam Way to the left now looks like a jungle. Inside the Showground the grass is getting so long it holds so much water you can’t park on it. The hard standing car park being used for car storage and maintenance for a venture that as yet has no planning permission. The Speedway club now having to cut the grass around the track so spectators can stand there. Absolutely ridiculous, who the hell exactly have the East of England Agricultural Society (Showground owners) got into bed with here? If you feel as pissed off as I do (also as a resident locally) you can email the Interim Chief Executive Officer, Alistair Beattie of the East of England Agricultural Society at Alistair@eastofengland.org.uk and ask him to instruct his tenants to shape up. I've opened up the thread for all to see as this deserves a wider audience. Obviously I can't confirm the accuracy of those points as detailed but register and rebut if you disagree. I have not heard of anybody actually wanting this development, yet those in charge would have us believe that they due to their great benevolence are doing everyone a personal favour!!! Greed avarice and self interest more like!!
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Post by Hodgy on Jul 25, 2023 20:22:05 GMT
In a nutshell. These people don’t give toss about Speedway, doubt they even know what it is. It’s an opportunity for housing, big money and I don’t think anyone will stop it.
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