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Post by admin on Dec 16, 2015 16:36:31 GMT
Anyway, back to more pressing matters. Are we really stuck for a no.1 or are we stringing it out because we have no other interesting news apart from the annual season ticket bonanza?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 17:07:02 GMT
Anyway, back to more pressing matters. Are we really stuck for a no.1 or are we stringing it out because we have no other interesting news apart from the annual season ticket bonanza? good question ......... I'd hazard a GUESS there waiting to see who's actually got a team spot (guaranteed a certain amount of meetings) in Poland and the 1s who haven't there hoping to pick up on the cheap , like I say I'm guessing and could be well off the mark |
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Post by admin on Dec 22, 2015 20:25:46 GMT
SPONSOR SEARCH (Friday December 04, 2015)PETERBOROUGH have launched a search for a major backer for the 2016 season.
Current title sponsors Readypower have notified club bosses they will not be extending their deal for next term.
That leaves a golden opportunity for a new title sponsor to step in and put their name to the ambitious Panthers brand.Begs the question as to why on Dec 22 the website splash screen shows: 
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Dec 23, 2015 9:22:19 GMT
Anyway, back to more pressing matters. Are we really stuck for a no.1 or are we stringing it out because we have no other interesting news apart from the annual season ticket bonanza? Ged covered this at the PPSSC meeting last night, they are all waiting for the fixtures both here and Poland before anyone will make a decision. He reiterated he wasn't worried and said it could be February before its sorted, one interesting point he made is tht only Redcar other than us could sign an 8 plus rider now as the other two teams not completed have less points available. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 10:09:39 GMT
Anyway, back to more pressing matters. Are we really stuck for a no.1 or are we stringing it out because we have no other interesting news apart from the annual season ticket bonanza? Ged covered this at the PPSSC meeting last night, they are all waiting for the fixtures both here and Poland before anyone will make a decision. He reiterated he wasn't worried and said it could be February before its sorted, one interesting point he made is tht only Redcar other than us could sign an 8 plus rider now as the other two teams not completed have less points available. surely as a promoter you'd have a no1 in place to start with , so what if these riders schedule don't fit in with panthers fixtures where's that leave us .... riders don't fall in your lap , getting a no1 should be your top priority , panthers have 6 riders signed if they cant get a no1 are they going to replace other riders and redeclare before the old internet warrior quotes start coming out , when your after a new sponsor surely you should have a full team in force to sell your team I'm not a ged knocker and think he's done cracking job and i'm not privy to know whats going on , he may well have the plans in place |
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Post by rodders on Dec 23, 2015 13:02:50 GMT
Has anybody any views on last nights Emergency meeting?
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2015 14:25:13 GMT
Has anybody any views on last nights Emergency meeting? Wouldn't have thought anything of interest would come out of it, but the new secretary says: "A massive thank you to everyone who made it to tonight's supporters club meeting at the show ground. With a new chairman and committee members, we are dedicated to moving the supporters club forward with lots of new ideas and events. We aim to update the website and Facebook page regularly and keep everyone up to date. Information on the next quiz night, and supporters club membership renewal will be announced in the new year (from FB)"Which sort of confirms it. |
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2015 14:30:15 GMT
Ged covered this at the PPSSC meeting last night, they are all waiting for the fixtures both here and Poland before anyone will make a decision. He reiterated he wasn't worried and said it could be February before its sorted, one interesting point he made is tht only Redcar other than us could sign an 8 plus rider now as the other two teams not completed have less points available. surely as a promoter you'd have a no1 in place to start with , so what if these riders schedule don't fit in with panthers fixtures where's that leave us .... riders don't fall in your lap , getting a no1 should be your top priority , panthers have 6 riders signed if they cant get a no1 are they going to replace other riders and redeclare before the old internet warrior quotes start coming out , when your after a new sponsor surely you should have a full team in force to sell your team I'm not a ged knocker and think he's done cracking job and i'm not privy to know whats going on , he may well have the plans in place I'd imagine it's all sorted (riders that is - not sure about sponsors) and this just keeps the newswire going during this quiet period. |
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Post by rodders on Dec 23, 2015 16:12:13 GMT
surely as a promoter you'd have a no1 in place to start with , so what if these riders schedule don't fit in with panthers fixtures where's that leave us .... riders don't fall in your lap , getting a no1 should be your top priority , panthers have 6 riders signed if they cant get a no1 are they going to replace other riders and redeclare before the old internet warrior quotes start coming out , when your after a new sponsor surely you should have a full team in force to sell your team I'm not a ged knocker and think he's done cracking job and i'm not privy to know whats going on , he may well have the plans in place I'd imagine it's all sorted (riders that is - not sure about sponsors) and this just keeps the newswire going during this quiet period. I would be interested to hear the views of anybody else who was there, to see whether they are similar to mine. |
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Post by rodders on Dec 23, 2015 21:18:35 GMT
I'd imagine it's all sorted (riders that is - not sure about sponsors) and this just keeps the newswire going during this quiet period. I would be interested to hear the views of anybody else who was there, to see whether they are similar to mine. To put it another way is there anybody on this board who attended? Were they and are they entirely happy. |
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Post by admin on Dec 24, 2015 0:07:13 GMT
I would be interested to hear the views of anybody else who was there, to see whether they are similar to mine. To put it another way is there anybody on this board who attended? Were they and are they entirely happy. Only Dick I'd imagine and he'll not give much away. So what's the problem if you were there Rodders? It's not going to get any comment if you don't say? Is this a supporters club issue, in which case this probably isn't the best place. Or is it a general Peterborough Speedway issue that concerned you? |
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Post by Hodgy on Dec 26, 2015 13:30:45 GMT
Today's paper says Panthers in preliminary talks with K Bjerre. Assume that's why they are waiting for Polish fixtures. Surprised if they can afford him. Not a big KB fan but would make us look very strong - as long as no fixture clashes.
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Post by admin on Dec 26, 2015 18:36:17 GMT
Today's paper says Panthers in preliminary talks with K Bjerre. Assume that's why they are waiting for Polish fixtures. Surprised if they can afford him. Not a big KB fan but would make us look very strong - as long as no fixture clashes. Which paper? I only ask because it's not in the ET (online version anyway). I'd say that the team has been sorted for a while and they are just dragging it out to keep the interest going during the quiet period. Can you really see them waiting until Feb before finding out them that there is a problem? Even Tetley isn't that silly. |
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Post by Hodgy on Dec 26, 2015 21:59:43 GMT
Today's paper says Panthers in preliminary talks with K Bjerre. Assume that's why they are waiting for Polish fixtures. Surprised if they can afford him. Not a big KB fan but would make us look very strong - as long as no fixture clashes. Which paper? I only ask because it's not in the ET (online version anyway). I'd say that the team has been sorted for a while and they are just dragging it out to keep the interest going during the quiet period. Can you really see them waiting until Feb before finding out them that there is a problem? Even Tetley isn't that silly. Small piece in The Mirror. Assume they await availability. I think they have a contingency plan, but preference is plan A, KB. |
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Post by admin on Dec 27, 2015 10:04:40 GMT
Which paper? I only ask because it's not in the ET (online version anyway). I'd say that the team has been sorted for a while and they are just dragging it out to keep the interest going during the quiet period. Can you really see them waiting until Feb before finding out them that there is a problem? Even Tetley isn't that silly. Small piece in The Mirror. Assume they await availability. I think they have a contingency plan, but preference is plan A, KB. I have the Mirror (missed that snippet, but wouldn't have been looking tbh) and it's usually pretty slow with speedway news. I still think that it's someone else and the loss of KB ties in with the loss of the Readypower sponsorship. I could be wrong of course but that's the latest theory still waiting to be blown out of the window  |
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Post by Hodgy on Dec 27, 2015 12:33:02 GMT
Small piece in The Mirror. Assume they await availability. I think they have a contingency plan, but preference is plan A, KB. I have the Mirror (missed that snippet, but wouldn't have been looking tbh) and it's usually pretty slow with speedway news. I still think that it's someone else and the loss of KB ties in with the loss of the Readypower sponsorship. I could be wrong of course but that's the latest theory still waiting to be blown out of the window Generally I only read newspapers for the sport - always start at the back. To be fair the Mirror usually has a token Speedway snippet most weeks - although usually old news. KB, PK, Porsing appear the rumours. What about B Kurtz? |
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Post by admin on Dec 27, 2015 19:04:09 GMT
I have the Mirror (missed that snippet, but wouldn't have been looking tbh) and it's usually pretty slow with speedway news. I still think that it's someone else and the loss of KB ties in with the loss of the Readypower sponsorship. I could be wrong of course but that's the latest theory still waiting to be blown out of the window Generally I only read newspapers for the sport - always start at the back. To be fair the Mirror usually has a token Speedway snippet most weeks - although usually old news. KB, PK, Porsing appear the rumours. What about B Kurtz? Kurtz doesn't fit I'm told  |
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Post by Hodgy on Dec 27, 2015 21:03:32 GMT
Generally I only read newspapers for the sport - always start at the back. To be fair the Mirror usually has a token Speedway snippet most weeks - although usually old news. KB, PK, Porsing appear the rumours. What about B Kurtz? Kurtz doesn't fit I'm told Wasn't sure, lose track of the 'averages malarkey'. Highlights the confusion when 3 reasonable EL riders fit but a PL newbie doesn't bash |
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Post by admin on Dec 27, 2015 23:49:50 GMT
Kurtz doesn't fit I'm told Wasn't sure, lose track of the 'averages malarkey'. Highlights the confusion when 3 reasonable EL riders fit but a PL newbie doesn't bash You and me both (I only knew because I got a PM to say as such). It's partly the reason that I don't play the teambuilding game. I haven't got the time, patience or interest. It's a simple concept made extremely confusing so as to try to limit the opportunities for the sharks to pull a fast one in the custard! |
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Post by Hodgy on Dec 29, 2015 20:17:35 GMT
Wasn't sure, lose track of the 'averages malarkey'. Highlights the confusion when 3 reasonable EL riders fit but a PL newbie doesn't bash You and me both (I only knew because I got a PM to say as such). It's partly the reason that I don't play the teambuilding game. I haven't got the time, patience or interest. It's a simple concept made extremely confusing so as to try to limit the opportunities for the sharks to pull a fast one in the custard! Yes agree, it's all too confusing and in so many cases manipulative. How many times do we hear teams put forward a case to get a rider on a lower average. Then state they have the rider on a 'bargain' average and expect them to increase by a point or two. Isn't that double standards? My other pet hate (as you are probably well aware), exceed at your job often decreases your employment options. |
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Post by admin on Dec 29, 2015 20:44:40 GMT
You and me both (I only knew because I got a PM to say as such). It's partly the reason that I don't play the teambuilding game. I haven't got the time, patience or interest. It's a simple concept made extremely confusing so as to try to limit the opportunities for the sharks to pull a fast one in the custard! Yes agree, it's all too confusing and in so many cases manipulative. How many times do we hear teams put forward a case to get a rider on a lower average. Then state they have the rider on a 'bargain' average and expect them to increase by a point or two. Isn't that double standards? My other pet hate (as you are probably well aware), exceed at your job often decreases your employment options. They could probably start by halving and simplifying the rulebook. That would hopefully cut out some of the opportunities for manipulation. I agree that exceeding expectations shouldn't limit future opportunities but can't think of a solution. The only thing that I can think of is that riders who ride/drop at reserve often seem to get an inflated average due to easier and/or more rides. Perhaps reserve rides could subject to a percentage increase on points scored so as not to give an inflated average? |
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Post by Hodgy on Jan 3, 2016 20:43:00 GMT
Yes agree, it's all too confusing and in so many cases manipulative. How many times do we hear teams put forward a case to get a rider on a lower average. Then state they have the rider on a 'bargain' average and expect them to increase by a point or two. Isn't that double standards? My other pet hate (as you are probably well aware), exceed at your job often decreases your employment options. They could probably start by halving and simplifying the rulebook. That would hopefully cut out some of the opportunities for manipulation. I agree that exceeding expectations shouldn't limit future opportunities but can't think of a solution. The only thing that I can think of is that riders who ride/drop at reserve often seem to get an inflated average due to easier and/or more rides. Perhaps reserve rides could subject to a percentage increase on points scored so as not to give an inflated average? That would be adding another complicating rule. Back to the darts. |
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Post by admin on Jan 4, 2016 10:02:58 GMT
They could probably start by halving and simplifying the rulebook. That would hopefully cut out some of the opportunities for manipulation. I agree that exceeding expectations shouldn't limit future opportunities but can't think of a solution. The only thing that I can think of is that riders who ride/drop at reserve often seem to get an inflated average due to easier and/or more rides. Perhaps reserve rides could subject to a percentage increase on points scored so as not to give an inflated average? That would be adding another complicating rule. Back to the darts. unfortunately though if you are going to use averages then there is no easy solution is there? Although this is just adding another rule, if the rulebook was taken apart and half the rules got rid of, then this would just be an addition to the remaining 50%, so not really adding to it greatly. At the end of the day it's about independence, transparency and consistency regarding such (and probably all come to that) decisions made by speedway's hierarchy. Until we get that the arguments will continue, but with the lunatics running the asylum things are not going to change as has been proved. |
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Post by Bigcatdiary on Jan 4, 2016 10:30:19 GMT
That would be adding another complicating rule. Back to the darts. unfortunately though if you are going to use averages then there is no easy solution is there? Although this is just adding another rule, if the rulebook was taken apart and half the rules got rid of, then this would just be an addition to the remaining 50%, so not really adding to it greatly. At the end of the day it's about independence, transparency and consistency regarding such (and probably all come to that) decisions made by speedway's hierarchy. Until we get that the arguments will continue, but with the lunatics running the asylum things are not going to change as has been proved. If you have a reasonable heat format (the current PL one seems ok) where everyone gets to race against most of the opposition then I don't see a problem, the EL format they have used is clearly flawed and yet another good example of how bad the sports administrators are. Having caused the problems they are now left with it beggars belief that they are going to persist with the format when common sense would dictate that scrapping it and going back to a tried and tested formula would be the answer. The rule book is a complete joke and should have been ripped up and re written years ago, the fact that the BSPA have had offers to do just that from qualified people and the fact that it hasn't been taken up just confirms the belief that several members don't want a clear, straightforwad and fair rule book. |
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Post by admin on Jan 12, 2016 10:42:49 GMT
Well this must be the dullest close season for a decade.
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