Peterborough Panthers 2023

[rodders]

Regrettably most that follow the norms of business ethics are out of their depth competing with the mafia.

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Feb 17, 2023 22:23:37 GMT rodders said:

Regrettably most that follow the norms of business ethics are out of their depth competing with the mafia.

so if we go by latest set of nut jobs on bsf it’s Andersen and pedersen even with those 2 looks wooden spoon to me

[admin]

From the BSPA 19/2/23

BELLE VUE
Dan Bewley
Brady Kurtz
Charles Wright
Jaimon Lidsey
Norick Blodorn
Tom Brennan
Jake Mulford (RS)

IPSWICH
tbc
tbc
Jason Doyle
Keynan Rew
Danny King
Erik Riss
Jack Thomas (RS)

KING’S LYNN
Frederik Jakobsen
Krzysztof Kasprzak
Nicolai Klindt
Josh Pickering
Thomas Jorgensen
Michael Palm Toft
Jason Edwards (RS)

LEICESTER
Chris Harris
Max Fricke
Richard Lawson
Nick Morris
Justin Sedgmen
Jake Allen
Dan Thompson (RS)

PETERBOROUGH
Nicki Pedersen
Hans Andersen
Benjamin Basso
Ben Cook
Niels-Kristian Iversen
Richie Worrall
Jordan Jenkins (RS)

SHEFFIELD
Jack Holder
Tobiasz Musielak
David Bellego
Lewis Kerr
Kyle Howarth
Adam Ellis
Dan Gilkes (RS)

WOLVERHAMPTON
Luke Becker
Sam Masters
Ryan Douglas
Rory Schlein
Zach Cook
Steve Worrall
Leon Flint (RS)

[admin]

Feb 19, 2023 9:09:23 GMT @arthursleep said:

Feb 17, 2023 22:23:37 GMT rodders said:

Regrettably most that follow the norms of business ethics are out of their depth competing with the mafia.

so if we go by latest set of nut jobs on BSF it’s Andersen and Pedersen even with those 2 looks wooden spoon to me

Certainly disappointing and risky after the hype. As soon as Chapman was calling the shots though then the prime objective is sustainability & cost above success and popularity. I'm not sure that it's the worst side but scraping into the play-offs is probably the best hope. If Cook & Jenkins kick on then they could cover some of the gaps up top? At home at least.

I suppose that what the rules allow for changes and when could be crucial to success because we may need to do so if it does look pear shaped.

[admin]

Feb 14, 2023 15:29:37 GMT rodders said:

Can anybody clarify Holder situation Whilst no background BSF seem to suggest Holder was on Board but scuppered by Buster.

Former world champion Chris Holder has revealed a proposed move to Peterborough Panthers for the 2023 season has fallen through.

And the veteran Aussie has slammed the city club for allegedly pulling out of the move with just a month to go before the start of the competitive season.

Holder took to social media to say: “Long story short, was all good to go until last week. No responses to messages, then finally someone had the balls to call me. Deal was off ... a month away from the GB season. Great bit of business.”

Holder, who was World Champion in 2012, last raced in the UK for the King’s Lynn Stars in 2017. His younger brother Jack is a former Panthers’ rider.

Panthers have yet to comment on Holder’s revelation. The city side still have two places to fill in their seven-man starting line-up.

peterboroughtoday/ex-world-champion-reveals-move-to-peterborough-panthers-has-fallen-through 20/2/23

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Feb 20, 2023 17:12:41 GMT admin said:

Feb 14, 2023 15:29:37 GMT rodders said:

Can anybody clarify Holder situation Whilst no background BSF seem to suggest Holder was on Board but scuppered by Buster.

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Former world champion Chris Holder has revealed a proposed move to Peterborough Panthers for the 2023 season has fallen through.

And the veteran Aussie has slammed the city club for allegedly pulling out of the move with just a month to go before the start of the competitive season.

Holder took to social media to say: “Long story short, was all good to go until last week. No responses to messages, then finally someone had the balls to call me. Deal was off ... a month away from the GB season. Great bit of business.”

Holder, who was World Champion in 2012, last raced in the UK for the King’s Lynn Stars in 2017. His younger brother Jack is a former Panthers’ rider.

Panthers have yet to comment on Holder’s revelation. The city side still have two places to fill in their seven-man starting line-up.

peterboroughtoday/ex-world-champion-reveals-move-to-peterborough-panthers-has-fallen-through 20/2/23

he was really looking forward to riding here and I should think he’s well p155ed with tomalin

[Hodgy]

I used to like C Holder but another Ozzy that turned into an arrogant ar$e. Just like his ickle brother. As far as I’m concerned he can pish off back to Poland or Oz, take his bro, Batch, Tungate and several other whinging compatriots with him. I wouldn’t want any of them in my team. Hope Cook doesn’t get influenced as others have. In addition Douglas would be a great signing for us, shame it’s not going to happen.

[rodders]

What ever is going on we shall never know!!! Even those that normally are closer to the inner sanctum seem to be in the dark, however we are fans and have no function other to pay our money .IMO the whole thing smacks of Busterism petty and vindictive .

[admin]

Feb 20, 2023 21:17:34 GMT rodders said:

What ever is going on we shall never know!!! Even those that normally are closer to the inner sanctum seem to be in the dark, however we are fans and have no function other to pay our money .IMO the whole thing smacks of Busterism petty and vindictive .

It's funny in that he doesn't seem to want to be involved. We are told that others are in charge. Decisions are seemingly made. He has a look and kicks off if he doesn't like them.

If riders are contracted and signed up then I can't see the problem. From early on it seemed like it was an aspirational team of verbal agreements that could fall apart at any time. I was told in December that riders (who I guess hadn't put pen to paper) were talking amongst themselves, probably angling for the best deal?

I've bought my first season ticket for 10+ years as I don't think that there will be any more Peterborough Speedway unless, miraculously, the EoES is still standing and available in 2024. It's my final speedway fling as I'll not be travelling elsewhere.

[Bigcatdiary]

Feb 20, 2023 21:40:21 GMT admin said:

Feb 20, 2023 21:17:34 GMT rodders said:

What ever is going on we shall never know!!! Even those that normally are closer to the inner sanctum seem to be in the dark, however we are fans and have no function other to pay our money .IMO the whole thing smacks of Busterism petty and vindictive .

It's funny in that he doesn't seem to want to be involved. We are told that others are in charge. Decisions are seemingly made. He has a look and kicks off if he doesn't like them.

If riders are contracted and signed up then I can't see the problem. From early on it seemed like it was an aspirational team of verbal agreements that could fall apart at any time. I was told in December that riders (who I guess hadn't put pen to paper) were talking amongst themselves, probably angling for the best deal?

I've bought my first season ticket for 10+ years as I don't think that there will be any more Peterborough Speedway unless, miraculously, the EoES is still standing and available in 2024. It's my final speedway fling as I'll not be travelling elsewhere.

As Mick Bratley stated on the BSF, contracts are not actually signed until the start of the season so it’s all verbally agreed until then.

Your comment about clubs not telling supporters what’s going on is on the money, they don’t and this is nothing new.
The problem they have these days rather than previous decades is down to the internet and social media, having had some slight insight into contracts I can tell you you would be gobsmacked by what some riders want or demand.

If riders find themselves on the sidelines prior to the season starting then sometimes it’s not always the clubs fault, Craig Cook is a good example the other year when he pulled out on press and practice day, that point and the fact he has had 3 or 4 clubs since then and failed, sacked, moved on after short seasons speaks volumes.
Batchelor and Tungate are others.

[admin]

Feb 21, 2023 8:28:03 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

As Mick Bratley stated on the BSF, contracts are not actually signed until the start of the season so it’s all verbally agreed until then.

Really! What a way to run a business. No wonder speedway is a mess.

[Bigcatdiary]

Feb 21, 2023 10:30:38 GMT admin said:

Feb 21, 2023 8:28:03 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

As Mick Bratley stated on the BSF, contracts are not actually signed until the start of the season so it’s all verbally agreed until then.

Really! What a way to run a business. No wonder speedway is a mess.

Been messy for decades, in fact can you honestly tell me a time it wasn’t.

[Hodgy]

No surprise signing. Not one I would have chosen.


PETERBOROUGH have confirmed long-serving Danish star Hans Andersen will be back for the 2023 season.

Andersen, who first rode for the club way back in 2003, will be going into his eighth season as part of the Showground set-up, during which time he has been involved in two top-flight title successes.

He comes back for the Panthers on a 4.93 average after they fell from Premiership champions to wooden-spoonists in the space of one year.

Co-promoter Carl Johnson said: “We believe in what Hans can do, we believe in his ability, and we’ve got faith in him.

“If we didn’t have that faith then he wouldn’t be in the team, it’s as simple as that. We wouldn’t bring someone in who we didn’t think was going to be able to do a job for us.

“Hans struggled last season with different things, but towards the end of the season he put in some good scores, and I’m confident he can put at least a point on his average from last year.”

British speedway.co.uk

[admin]

Feb 21, 2023 8:28:03 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

Feb 20, 2023 21:40:21 GMT admin said:

It's funny in that he doesn't seem to want to be involved. We are told that others are in charge. Decisions are seemingly made. He has a look and kicks off if he doesn't like them.

If riders are contracted and signed up then I can't see the problem. From early on it seemed like it was an aspirational team of verbal agreements that could fall apart at any time. I was told in December that riders (who I guess hadn't put pen to paper) were talking amongst themselves, probably angling for the best deal?

I've bought my first season ticket for 10+ years as I don't think that there will be any more Peterborough Speedway unless, miraculously, the EoES is still standing and available in 2024. It's my final speedway fling as I'll not be travelling elsewhere.

As Mick Bratley stated on the BSF, contracts are not actually signed until the start of the season so it’s all verbally agreed until then.

Your comment about clubs not telling supporters what’s going on is on the money, they don’t and this is nothing new.
The problem they have these days rather than previous decades is down to the internet and social media, having had some slight insight into contracts I can tell you you would be gobsmacked by what some riders want or demand.

If riders find themselves on the sidelines prior to the season starting then sometimes it’s not always the clubs fault, Craig Cook is a good example the other year when he pulled out on press and practice day, that point and the fact he has had 3 or 4 clubs since then and failed, sacked, moved on after short seasons speaks volumes.
Batchelor and Tungate are others.

But then he says: "Didn’t have to turn any club down (although he did turn two down) as he signed his deal in November of last year.


A true 2+2 = 5 situation?

[Bigcatdiary]

Feb 23, 2023 14:53:06 GMT admin said:

Feb 21, 2023 8:28:03 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

As Mick Bratley stated on the BSF, contracts are not actually signed until the start of the season so it’s all verbally agreed until then.

Your comment about clubs not telling supporters what’s going on is on the money, they don’t and this is nothing new.
The problem they have these days rather than previous decades is down to the internet and social media, having had some slight insight into contracts I can tell you you would be gobsmacked by what some riders want or demand.

If riders find themselves on the sidelines prior to the season starting then sometimes it’s not always the clubs fault, Craig Cook is a good example the other year when he pulled out on press and practice day, that point and the fact he has had 3 or 4 clubs since then and failed, sacked, moved on after short seasons speaks volumes.
Batchelor and Tungate are others.

But then he says: "Didn’t have to turn any club down (although he did turn two down) as he signed his deal in November of last year.


A true 2+2 = 5 situation?

I will leave Bratters to explain that one.

[admin]

Where are we at (24/2/23):



1. Nicki Pedersen
2. Benjamin Basso
3. Richie Worrall
4. Hans Andersen
5. Neils Kristian Iversen
6. Ben Cook
7. Jordan Jenkins

Well that looks like it with NP to be confirmed but the jungle drums say that he's signed

[Bigcatdiary]

Feb 24, 2023 9:15:11 GMT admin said:

Where are we at (24/2/23):



1. Nicki Pedersen
2. Benjamin Basso
3. Richie Worrall
4. Hans Andersen
5. Neils Kristian Iversen
6. Ben Cook
7. Jordan Jenkins

Well that looks like it with NP to be confirmed but the jungle drums say that he's signed

It’s not bad but it could have been better, personally I would have gone with a younger no 1 with a slightly less average enabling us to keep Holder instead of Worrall.
But it is what it is, having looked at the teams and what around I would say Belle Vue, Sheffield, Ipswich and us for the play offs with Leicester and Wolves chasing the top 4, Lynn look to be making the numbers up.

The League will surely be more competitive this year and Doyle will find it a lot harder this time around.

[admin]

Feb 24, 2023 11:01:35 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

Feb 24, 2023 9:15:11 GMT admin said:

Where are we at (24/2/23):



1. Nicki Pedersen
2. Benjamin Basso
3. Richie Worrall
4. Hans Andersen
5. Neils Kristian Iversen
6. Ben Cook
7. Jordan Jenkins

Well that looks like it with NP to be confirmed but the jungle drums say that he's signed

It’s not bad but it could have been better, personally I would have gone with a younger no 1 with a slightly less average enabling us to keep Holder instead of Worrall.
But it is what it is, having looked at the teams and what around I would say Belle Vue, Sheffield, Ipswich and us for the play offs with Leicester and Wolves chasing the top 4, Lynn look to be making the numbers up.

The League will surely be more competitive this year and Doyle will find it a lot harder this time around.

The profile of the league has definitely gone up a notch so an unusual bit of credit to the sport's administrators.

Don't know why they've risked Pedersen? Wouldn't have been my choice and is a risk that they didn't need to take. But is what it is though as you say. It could have been worse.

[admin]

From Polish rag and translated so I changed some words to what I think that they should say:

Why didn't injuries end Nickt Pedersen's career? "It would be fair if I resigned retired"

In June last year, Nicki Pedersen suffered a serious injury on the track in Grudziądz, when he broke his pelvis and hip bone acetabulum. - jeez, that's a risk at his age

The Dane now argues that that injury could not force him to end his career. (strange translation?)

For the 3x World Champion and Danish speedway legend, the aforementioned event injury was another during his many years of competition, after which he had to undergo rehabilitation. This serious injury could theoretically end the career of the 45-year-old but admirably his preparations for the upcoming season are going according to plan.

For Nicki Pedersen, 2023 will be a very intense year. Recently he took over the management of the Danish national team from Hans Nielsen, in the season in which the Team World Cup returns to the calendar (the competition will take place at the end of July, on the track in Wrocław). In addition, he is to continue racing for the Holsted Tigers team in the Danish league and again wants to be the leader of ZOOleszcz GKM Grudziądz in the Polish PGE Ekstraliga. Add in Peterborough Panthers as well now.

In addition, the Odense-born competitor appears with his family in the Danish reality show "Team Pedersen", where viewers can get to know both the backstage of his speedway starts life and also his private life. At a time when being the manager of the Danish national team and a TV star would be enough activity for some, the three-time winner of the Speedway Grand Prix series admits that he still loves life on the track and will not let injuries determine the end of his career.

He had no doubts

"Before, when I broke my neck twice, everyone was like, 'Okay, now he's going to retire. He's done his job.' It would be fair for me to quit racing but I don't want to. I still love the sport and it is my source of income. It's part of me. I still feel like I put a lot into it. I don't do it for other people, but for myself because I can, it makes me happy and I love it. I still feel that I can still give a lot of myself to this sport - says Nicki Pedersen on fimspeedway.com.

After the injuries that happened to this titled Dane in recent years, many players riders would not return to the track. However, Pedersen is characterized by great determination which allowed him to return to racing every time and continue to do so at a very high level. - I know that the head is fine, it always has been. I'm quite strong mentally. I had no doubts about whether I could race again or not. I didn't think about whether it would be painful or not. I don't feel any pain now, so why would it come when I get back on track and start racing? asks the three-time best player rider in the world.

He changed the way he trains

At the same time, the new manager of the Danish national team emphasizes that his current recovery is going smoothly and his return should not be delayed. He was recently confirmed to start in Criterion of Aces and on March 26 he will have a chance to compete in a heavily seeded tournament.

Racing 23, 26 & 27 March straight off after injury

“Everything is healing properly, which is good news. I currently feel no pain at all during my workouts. I just need to get back in shape, get back on the bike and focus on racing.

However, Pedersen admits that since his last hip fracture, he has had to prepare wisely.

- I used to run a lot. I like to do it, but at the moment I'm cycling instead. Even though I don't have any pain now, the long term concern is not to cause any damage and not to let my pelvic pain come back. I broke it, which affected my left leg. Everything is in the right place, but now, instead of pushing it while running, it is better to put less pressure on the pelvis by cycling, concludes Nicki Pedersen.

sportowefakty 23/2/23

[bratters]

Feb 24, 2023 9:15:11 GMT admin said:

Where are we at (24/2/23):



1. Nicki Pedersen
2. Benjamin Basso
3. Richie Worrall
4. Hans Andersen
5. Neils Kristian Iversen
6. Ben Cook
7. Jordan Jenkins

Well that looks like it with NP to be confirmed but the jungle drums say that he's signed

Some riders are on the ball. 

Others leave it till they arrive in the country. It’s always been a tad flimsy.

[Bigcatdiary]

Let’s hope their all on the ball when we get going, somehow I don’t think the management will do nothing this year if someone isn’t doing the business on the track.

[bratters]

Feb 24, 2023 15:20:47 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

Let’s hope their all on the ball when we get going, somehow I don’t think the management will do nothing this year if someone isn’t doing the business on the track.

Pretty sure they will know the score.

[Hodgy]

Feb 24, 2023 16:08:30 GMT bratters said:

Feb 24, 2023 15:20:47 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

Let’s hope their all on the ball when we get going, somehow I don’t think the management will do nothing this year if someone isn’t doing the business on the track.

Pretty sure they will know the score.

In my opinion, NP, RW & your pal HA (I keep reading from new new boss, “watch him go this year, we have the title in the bag” but no reason why and what has changed from last season) were bad signings if we really want to be amongst it. I hope I’m wrong but other teams look much stronger.

[Bigcatdiary]

Feb 24, 2023 16:08:30 GMT bratters said:

Feb 24, 2023 15:20:47 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

Let’s hope their all on the ball when we get going, somehow I don’t think the management will do nothing this year if someone isn’t doing the business on the track.

Pretty sure they will know the score.

After speaking with Carl last night it’s apparent everyone will be under no illusions, management, riders and supporters.

[admin]

Feb 25, 2023 9:37:25 GMT Bigcatdiary said:

Feb 24, 2023 16:08:30 GMT bratters said:

Pretty sure they will know the score.

After speaking with Carl last night it’s apparent everyone will be under no illusions, management, riders and supporters.

He turned up? Bugger, that's another worthless betting slip

Nice easy opening having to face Doyle and Sayfutdinov

The 33-year-old says it has been a long process to get to this point and praised Chris Louis’ hard work in getting the deal done.

“I think Chris is happiest, only kidding,” said Sayfutdinov."

Strange thing to say/read even in jest. Personally I'd have left that out of the PR, but that's me looking for an angle